NZ Vegan Podcast

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Here is a link to Animals as Persons - please read it!: http://cup.columbia.edu/book/animals-as-persons/9780231139502

Here is the facebook page of the Abolitionist Vegan Weekly Tabling with Vanda Kadas and Mariana Landeros Corona: https://www.facebook.com/pg/Abolitionist-Vegan-Weekly-Tabling-2003263296583131/posts/?ref=page_internal

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Wow. I was sheltered for so long at my job.  This is getting back out into the real world and I am finding out again about all my limitations and the things holding me back (myself, basically). It's a painful look in the mirror but worth doing.

Here is Peggy's video from The World Vegan Summit - it is so inspiring.  All the videos from the abolitionist approach advocates are so please watch them all .

PLEASE learn The Abolitionist Approach to Animal Rights .  Read the Six Principles .  Go on the website and watch all the Videos .  Read the Books - try to get them at your local library if you can't afford to buy them.

We can do this people!  We must.

Here is my badge I was talking about, that I wear every day

Notes and corrections:

1. ARGH so sorry the condition I was talking about is IRITIS (not Rinitis!!!) or Uveitis - here is information about it, it's good to learn about different things people are going through. https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/798323-overview

2. I completely forgot that years ago I had heard of one situation that a vegan was going through, who did have a terrible medical condition in which her body could not make or maintain its own cholesterol, and therefore was in an awful situation as was really really struggling to find a way to maintain her vegan diet without dying, literally.  It was a very hard thing, and a long struggle, that was very real, and this was a situation in which animal products (which unlike plants contain cholesterol) seemed to be the only medically viable option for them.  Luckily, and also because this person believed in animal rights they finally found a way (I don't know the exact details) to manage it without having to compromise their veganism.  So I actually also relayed that story to the person I was talking to as well, using it as an example to talk about the animal rights point of view. 

3. Sorry if the quality is so bad, I was just planning to do a 10 minute video but it turned into 40 minutes so too big for me to figure out how to upload, so it's now a podcast with really bad audio quality.

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Here is the podcast with Wayne Hsiung, Gary Francione and Bob Linden

http://www.goveganradio.com/go-vegan-radio-615/  - the discussion occurs starting at about 36 minutes into the show.

Here is the ever important, historical, monumental must listen debate between Erik Marcus and Gary Francione (if calling it a 'conversation' will make you listen to it, then call it a conversation) it's a MUST LISTEN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NWA4Rf120

Here is a link to Gary Francione's BOOKS.  READ THEM!  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/

This is Rain Without Thunder, published in 1996: http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-necessity-of-theory/

We know the world isn't going to go vegan overnight okay????

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/abolition-simple-concepts-pop-quiz/

This is that blog post I talked about about the coalition  needed for these single issue campaigns (also discussed in the podcast with Bob Linden and Wayne Hsiung). It's called" Why Welfare Reform Campaigns and Single-Issue Campaigns Necessarily  Promote Animal Exploitation http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/14542-2/

Here is the blog post on the importance of theory and how everyone, even those who says they don't subscribe to theory, is actually operating under some kind of theory:

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-necessity-of-theory/

Here is that podcast I did about "one way" activism:

http://nzveganpodcast.blogspot.co.nz/2016/05/nzvp-ep132-earthlings-experience-and.html

Check out Vanda Kadas' facebook page to see her fantastic, REGULARLY OCCURRING abolitionist approach vegan stall that she does every week!!! Here is a photo:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155228092022895&set=t.729047894&type=3&theater

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So this is a confessional with a New Year's resolution attached.

Here is a link to the saved recordings of the Webinar videos with Gary Francione and Anna Charlton - the one called Advocate For Animals is the latest one but they are all worth a watch. You can also sign up to see them live and have your questions answered live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z57FK4Zf0xs&list=PLAg_TeZ267R6313TaOwEFJoxhUsRx1c_U

Check out the new book!!  Advocate for Animals!: here is a blog post about it with a link at the top to where you can get it: http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/new-book-advocate-for-animals-an-abolitionist-vegan-handbook/

Here is the How Do I Go Vegan website:  www.howdoigovegan.com  there is a link to their Facebook page

Frances McCormack is the vegan mentor from How Do I Go Vegan (there might be other people too that I don't know about!): http://www.howdoigovegan.com/mentoring/

Here is a post showing their week of fast easy meal ideas (this is from Facebook page): https://www.facebook.com/notes/howdoigovegancom/a-week-of-fast-food-meal-ideas/526632434358925/

Here is a link to the International Vegan Association Nutrition guide if you live overseas and I highly recommend it: https://www.internationalvegan.org/nutrition/

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Here is that debate between Gary Francione and Dario Ringach that I talked about

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/debate-the-use-of-nonhuman-animals-in-biomedical-research-a-moral-justification/

Here is the video of the debate.  The sound is TERRIBLE someone didn't turn off their darn cell phone >:(  But despite that it's worth a listen just grin and bear it.  It's worth it  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8OMtRiD3oI

Thank you for listening

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Here is a photo of Puss Cat, rescued and safe and finally in a forever home, inside and cared for properly. She will be safe there, and receive all the medical attention she needs, I am very grateful to everyone who saved her xxxx

Here is a photo of Truc and Me and Jeff doing the stall.

Here is a link to the replay of the fantastic webinar I talked about.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHluHraCJHQ&feature=youtu.be

There will be more webinars!  Go to Gary Francione's Facebook page to join the community! : https://web.facebook.com/abolitionistapproach/?_rdr

Happy New Year everyone!

Thank you for listening.

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This is about "Exposés"  I couldn't put the accent on the "e" in the title because feedburner rejects it for some reason and the podcast won't work.

Here is the story I was talking about re: my experience with a PeTA video: http://www.nzvegan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/My-Vegan-Story.pdf 

Dedicated to dear sweet Bubbles and to Sophie and Michael, who are the most big hearted, generous, kind, and unconditionally loving and amazing people I have ever had the privilege of meeting in my life.

Thank you for listening

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Please check out the Six Principles of the Abolitionist Approach to Animal Rights : http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/about/the-six-principles-of-the-abolitionist-approach-to-animal-rights/

Please read ALL Gary Francione and Anna Charltons' books : http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/

Please read this article about violent imagery in advocacy:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/violent-imagery-in-animal-advocacy/#.Vz2nmmMyeA0

Here is that article I mentioned by Frances McCormack that coincidentally was published on the weekend about graphic imagery http://www.ecorazzi.com/2016/05/13/vegans-dont-need-graphic-imagery-to-advocate/

Thank you for listening.

Dedicated to Buda the cat.

RIP my darling.  Miss you forever.

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here is the debate between Gary Francione and Bruce Friedrich at the North American Animal Welfarist conference in 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ1qFdR1cHA

Here is the debate about SICs I mentioned:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRHr5bwNvLA

Here is the FANTASTIC new book by Gary Francione and Anna Charlton Animal Rights: The Abolitionist Approach  http://abolitionistapproachbook.weebly.com

So thrilling!!

Here is the Facebook page for the mice - Lefty and Big Daddy need a home NOW https://www.facebook.com/18NZMice/?ref=hl

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Here is the article I talked about:

https://humaneleaguelabs.wordpress.com/2015/09/20/report-is-animal-cruelty-or-purity-abolitionist-messaging-more-effective/

Here is the link to all of Gary Francione's books please read them ALL:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/

Here is the link to the groundbreaking debate with Erik Marcus and Gary Francione please set yourself down with a pot of tea or coffee or whatever and listen to the whole 2.5 hours.

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/my-dinner-at-eriks-happy-meat-diner/#.VgEpU-mFu0c 

Here is the direct link to the audio in case you missed it:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/mp3/eriks-diner-2007-02-25.mp3

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Here is the link to the Vegan For Life podcast I mentioned from Nícolas Noriê  http://plainsfm.org.nz/programme/vegan-life /

Here is a link to the article I was trolled and trolling on (I wasn't really intended to troll per se and I don't think what I was doing classifies as trolling but it felt like it in the end especially the way I started behaving) http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_haven_from_the_animal_holocaust_20150802

Here is a basic recipe I found for baking soda and coconut oil toothpaste - I use an old baby food jar (I used to give the cats some pureed baby food squash until I just started making it myself) but any jar will do:

Fill your jar with a heaping scoop of soft (but not melted) coconut oil (about 1/4 to 1/2 way full if you’re using a tiny jar). If your oil is super solid, you can place place the jar in a bowl of hot water for a few minutes.
Sprinkle the baking soda on top (about 1/2 the amount of coconut oil) and stir well.
Add some peppermint oil to taste (Optional)
Test it. It should pretty grainy, paste like (creamy, not hard), and leave your mouth feeling super fresh. If you can’t feel the grain, add some more baking soda. If it feels crumbly, you need more coconut oil. If you don’t feel the freshness, add some more peppermint oil.

Here is the mouthwash again:

8 drops peppermint oil

8 drops tea tree oil

250 mils of water

Hey so regarding the baking soda and vinegar shampoo - there are apparently a lot of articles out there saying it damages hair but I have used it for about 3 months and i am loving it more every day but whatever.  There are lots of homemade vegan shampoos online for you to check out.  I won't post links there are too many.

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Here is the link to Gary Francione's book Eat Like You Care:  www.eatlikeyoucarebook.com   

Here is  the  link to all the rest of his books  please read them:    http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/

Here is a link to the videos please watch them:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/video/

Please also explore the rest of the site www.abolitionistapproach.com

Here is the speech by Chris Hedges please watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA41ggsdeXE

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here is the documentary on abortion that I mentioned:

https://archive.org/details/when_abortion_was_illegal 

Here is the link to that thread I mentioned on the Abolitionist Approach Facebook Page

https://www.facebook.com/abolitionistapproach/photos/a.393908680628892.94280.156275557725540/965200420166379/?type=1&theater

Here is the video I talked about that is the best in the world and changed my life and made me an abolitionist vegan:

NOTE: there are some upsetting photos but lots of beautiful photos and the context is so on point.  I wouldn't ask you to watch it if I didn't think it was worth it.

https://vimeo.com/4808525 - to watch at the link or watch below (make it full screen if it is not showing properly)

Theory of Animal Rights from Gary L. Francione on Vimeo .

Thanks for listening and please please remember to READ GARY FRANCIONE'S BOOKS http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/

Here are some photos from Jam on Toast and Eco Day

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Key word: Focus!

Here is the song I mentioned - it's very beautiful and sad, but more beautiful than sad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by0xnJStass

Here is the poster I mentioned of the pigs:

Here is information about the plastic gyres in the ocean I mentioned:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch

Thanks for listening and happy vegan new year.

P.S The word I was looking for was DICHOTOMY

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I am reluctantly putting a link to the FAQ I talked about although I dislike even promoting their site at all:

http://www.ahimsamilk.org/faq/

This is the photo of the little bull with the ring in their nose on the Facebook page that I talked about: https://www.facebook.com/266909179987461/photos/a.293516217326757.79424.266909179987461/883563834988656/?type=1

Here is the article about nose ringing a bull I mentioned:

http://www.lifestyleblock.co.nz/lifestyle-file/livestock-a-pets/cattle/item/21-nose-ringing-a-bull-.html

Here is the article about artificial weaning of cows I mentioned:

http://www.awionline.org/lab_animals/biblio/jaaws7.html

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Here is the CNN interview: http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2014/10/04/smerconish-cat-kicked-10042014.cnn&video_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abolitionistapproach.com%2Fandre-robinson-king-confused-thinking-animal-ethics%2F

Here is the NY Times article: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/10/01/enforcing-the-legal-rights-of-animals/eating-meat-is-also-animal-abuse

And there was a Daily News article too!  I forgot to mention! : http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/gary-francione-stop-scapegoating-cat-kicker-article-1.1969363

>>This is, I am pretty sure, the unedited and originally titled version of the NY Times article or at least that's what it seems to be:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/andre-robinson-king-confused-thinking-animal-ethics/#.VEH4pL4Qe3w

This is the Facebook discussion I was talking about re: "mock" animal products: https://www.facebook.com/abolitionistapproach/posts/867250949961327

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Here is me at my damp stall!  I wouldn't normally go in weather like this to be honest, but I had 2 dozen cupcakes and there was nuthin gonna stop me!

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Here is the link to the Vegan Printer: www.veganprinter.com

Here is links to heaps of the articles and Facebook postings about The Vegan Society debacle:

THE "VEGAN" SOCIETY WITHDRAWS "THERE, WE SAID IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE VEGAN."  - Facebook post about the 'rebrand' and the changes they made after the first protest of the new TVS campaign

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/moment-silence-donald-watson-founder-vegan-society/#.U-9o90sQcbS

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/vegan-society-ambassador-fiona-oakes-veganism-not-for-everyone-probably-not-many-people/#.U-9cK0sQcbS

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/manager-vegfestuk-tim-barford-many-people-get-ill-vegan-diet/#.U-9clEsQcbQ

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/cant-make-stuff-vegan-society-ambassador-fiona-oakes-says-promoting-veganism-moral-imperative-causes-damage-animals/#.U-9cF0sQcbQ

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/vegan-society-corporate-partners-sustainable-animal-agriculture/#.U-9cBEsQcbQ

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/brought-vegan-society-disrepute-insisted-vegan-society-vegan/#.U-9cb0sQcbQ

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/vegan-society-decide/#.U-9cqEsQcbQ

Part 1 of the debate between Tim Barford and Gary Francione: http://www.goveganradio.com/2014/08/04/3-august-2014/

Part 2 of the debate:  http://www.goveganradio.com/2014/08/13/10-august-2014/

Facebook events page for the debate: https://www.facebook.com/events/809889079061401/

This is the debate between Gary Francione and Erik Marcus: a MUST listen for any advocate:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/audio/#erik-marcus-20070225   There is also a pdf of the transcript the relevant part I was referring to is here:

"...as far as what we say to people who don’t ... I’m not
really interested in designing campaigns – I mean look, Erik, there are going to be people
who disagree, they’re going to be people who aren’t interested at all. So shall I design

my campaign and shall I target my efforts to the people that don’t care?

You know, last night I saw this movie Amazing Grace , it wasn’t a perfect movie, but it
was certainly, given the grand scheme of horrible movies these days, it was a worthwhile
movie to see. It was about Wilbur Wilberforce, who actually with Richard Martin, I

think this is accurate, that he started the RSPCA in England, but William Wilberforce

was also an abolitionist with respect to slavery. And it was very interesting, because he
had to confront this very issue. That, at the time that he decided slavery should be
abolished most people thought slavery shouldn’t be abolished, and yet, he didn’t propose
that we ought to make slavery more humane. He took an abolitionist position
continuously, and eventually he prevailed. So I’m not really interested in worrying

about – yeah, are there some people out there that don’t care?

You used the expression “gratuitous cruelty” I don’t even know what the hell that means,
Erik. I really don’t even know what that means, gratuitous cruelty. What does that
mean? We don’t need to eat animals at all. Nobody maintains – its 2007, nobody, not
even the United States government maintains that we need to eat any animal products to
be optimally healthy. Indeed an increasing number of mainstream healthcare people are
telling us that eating animal products isn’t good for us. So, all suffering in connection
with animals that we’re raising for food is gratuitous. So I don’t know what you mean
when you say gratuitous cruelty.

But, are there people who don’t care? Yes, Erik, there are people who don’t care, and
there are a lot of people who do care. And what I’m interested in doing is reaching those
people, and when I reach them, the last thing in the world I want to tell them is, “Hey
look, you’re going to go from Abu Ghraib to a minimum security Connecticut prison if
you buy cage-free eggs.” I’m not going to tell them that. I’m going to tell them if they
care about this issue there’s one choice: go vegan. And you know what? Some people
are going to turn off to that, and some people are going to turn on to that, and what I’m
interested in is the people who turn on to it, because every person I turn on to it decreases
demand. That’s what we’ve got to do, is decrease the demand. And the way you
decrease demand is you get people to stop using these products altogether. You don’t do
it by imposing opportunity costs that are so deminimist that producers can pass those
costs along to consumers and not lose a cent of profit. Indeed, there is a huge markup. I
don’t know if you’ve shopped at Whole Foods recently, but they’re making a lot of
money. Those products are marked up tremendously. Those producers are making a
tremendous profit. I don’t think that’s the solution. As a matter of fact, I’m sure it’s not."

Here is my  Facebook  status I read out:   https://www.facebook.com/NZVegan/posts/541388332629761

" Listening to the second part of the debate between Gary Francione and Tim Barford. So far we are at just the first question, re: having groups like "Part-Time Carnivore" attend Veg Fest. Tim is justifying this by saying cutting down to say 20% animal products is still going to have an immensely positive effect on the environment and human health, as well as decreasing by 80% the amount of animal s used.

Nobody is disputing that less harm is better. Nobody is disputing that or has ever disputed that. It is not an issue that is focused on in human rights campaigning against fundamental human rights abuses like rape (I mean, less rape is better right? So should we campaign for 'less rape'? NO!!! We should and do campaign for NO RAPE!)

The main theme of Tim's position and of every single other welfarist I have debated myself in various places, is the same one. Their position is: if you advocate for veganism unequivocally, not only will people not even begin to think about these issues at all, and therefore because they won't even begin to think about them that means they will therefore never start to examine their animal use, leading them to start to cut down on their animal use anyway, of their own volition, based on these issues they are beginning to think about because they were talked to about veganism - not only will they not do that, but that they will completely and utterly, down to the last person, freak out, reject the entire thing entirely, and will make NO reductions and might even increase animal use out of some kind of perverse notion and will never, ever go vegan, or ever cut down, or ever have their consciousness awoken in the slightest bit about the immorality of animal use.

This is their claim. Based on this erroneous belief, they claim we *have* to promote "meat free Mondays" or "part time Carnivore" or welfare 'reforms' or 'cutting down' etc and we cannot promote veganism unequivocally or hold veganism as the moral baseline. Otherwise, they claim, NO ONE will make ANY CHANGES. EVER. That's their position. Does that make sense to you? That doesn't make sense to me either."  

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Here is the link to the Facebook thread: https://www.facebook.com/NZVegan/posts/532236813544913

It has died down now so I wasn't as time consuming as I thought.  Good!  Because I plan to do this more often as it needs to be done, as a lot of new vegans get sucked into welfare which is a terrible thing to happen.  We need to expose new vegans to abolition as quickly as possible - if only at the very least to give them the option to see the alternative.  Rather than them not even knowing it exists, or them only being exposed to the deliberate distortions of abolition by the welfarist movement.

Please read the following essay:

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-four-problems-of-animal-welfare-in-a-nutshell/#.U9FdgFYQcbQ

Please listen to the following debate (they talk a lot about the HSUS sow crate campaign in this debate so it's worth a listen and is relevant to this SAFE campaign which is focused on 'factory farmed pork'): http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/my-dinner-at-eriks-happy-meat-diner/

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Here is the link to the article debunking 'reverse racism' that I mentioned and quoted from, *please* read it: http://feminspire.com/why-reverse-racism-isnt-real/

Here is the link to the articles on the modern feminist movement that I mentioned, I especially learned a lot from the second article, especially the similarities and conflicts within the feminist movement that mirror a lot of the welfarist/abolitionist debate.

http://www.newstatesman.com/lifestyle/2014/03/sex-positive-feminism-doing-patriarchys-work-it

http://feministcurrent.com/8879/the-divide-isnt-between-sex-negative-and-sex-positive-feminists-its-between-liberals-and-radicals/

I especially LOVE this comment by one of the commentators on the article whose moniker is "MLM":

"I think part of the problem, and part of what makes certain radical thinkers so easy to demonise, is that the very notion of compassion itself has also been hijacked and distorted. People think compassion is about protecting somebody’s feelings, and sometimes it is. But sometimes it’s having an understanding that there are more crucial issues at stake. And doing th e right thing may actually hurt someone’s feelings, and not make you or them feel good. Sometimes the deepest compassion is the type that requires you to be the sword which cuts through the bullshit and say “No, Im sorry. I can’t and won’t go along with that. It’s not good for me or you or anyone”. (I’m learning this more and more as a parent…)

Going along with falsehood and delusion just because you are afraid of hurting someone’s feelings or because you feel sorry for them is not compassion, it’s a type of sycophancy. And while it’s so important not to lose sight of the fact that you are dealing with another human being when you find yourself in opposition with them, it’s every bit as important to point out that facilitating injustice in the name of “compassion” is actually precisely the opposite. Fierce defence of justice is actually the truest kind of compassion, but often also the easiest to mischaracterize." 

Here is a link to one of the articles by Gary Francione on the Kapparos Campaign:

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-kapparos-campaign-a-good-example-whats-wrong-single-issue-campaigns/#.U7dbBxYQcbQ

Here is a link to the articles about The "Vegan" Society's betrayal of the moral baseline:

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/moment-silence-donald-watson-founder-vegan-society/#.U7fUEhYQcbQ

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Here is the link to Kaiaroha Nut Cheeses who also do the Vegan Deli at the Parnell Farmers Market: http://www.kaiaroha.co.nz

Here is the link to La Noix Vegan Cake Shop: http://lanoixvegancake.com/Home/Cakes

Here are the photos!  I couldn't get decent ones of the food because it was flying off the plates too fast for me to get it all haha:



Here is the cake!  It is the chocolate mousse cake:

***NOTE: I AM NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH OR SUPPORT TAVS

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Thanks for listening.  Feel free to share any great vegan gluten free ginger cake recipes for my mother's birthday cake :)

Here is the link to the clip about Muhammed Ali's Poem "Me, We" -something which should be the baseline for all our vegan advocacy I reckon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXQ_IjzWN7A

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 ***NOTE: I AM NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH OR SUPPORT TAVS

This is the quote from Gary Francione I mentioned:

"To believe in a principle of justice and promote that principle clearly is not be "angry." That term is simply a way of putting the principle down by not focusing on the substance and, instead, focusing on the person articulating the principle. 

People always "like" people who don't challenge them but in the world in which you and I live, challenging others is what morality *requires*. It's not optional!"

(In response to a comment on the Gary L. Francione: The Abolitionist Approach to Animal Rights page in which the commentator said: "I was overwhelmed by all the "angry vegan" personal attacks this week and wanted to be seen as 'nicer' by encouraging thi s, which did not prove to be effective and went against my conscience anyway.")

Original thread where above comment happened: https://www.facebook.com/abolitionistapproach/posts/734694363216987?comment_id=7664908&offset=0&total_comments=26

Original post on the thread, by the way, was: 

"*All* animal products involve suffering and death. All of them. We should be crystal clear that the *only* rational response to recognizing the moral status of nonhumans is to go vegan. If animals matter morally, then *any* exploitation--however supposedly "humane"--is immoral. To say that being "compassionate" requires that we promote something other than veganism is to say that we are morally obligated to promote immorality. That makes no sense, If you agree that animals matter, veganism--and only veganism--is what makes sense."

Here are the links I mentioned from the SAFE Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/SAFEnewzealand/photos/a.10150641855485434.697966.417859725433/10153770995105434/?type=1&stream_ref=10

https://www.facebook.com/SAFEnewzealand/posts/10153707967115462?stream_ref=10

https://www.facebook.com/SAFEnewzealand/posts/10153693040105434?stream_ref=10

https://www.facebook.com/SAFEnewzealand/photos/a.10150641855485434.697966.417859725433/10153686609385434/?type=1&stream_ref=10

Hope I got them all

Here is the link to the Esther the Wonder Pig posting:

https://www.facebook.com/estherthewonderpig/posts/532716096835619?stream_ref=10

Here is the link to My Face is on Fire Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/My-Face-Is-on-Fire/177471362269051

Here is the one I mentioned (but there are heaps more): 23 de noviembre de 2013

And finally here is the link to the Abolitionist Approach Article: Making a Mockery of Gandhi:

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/making-mockery-gandhi/#.UxKJ9NzDqv8

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Or here 

Please go to this link to get a copy of Eat Like You Care: www.eatlikeyoucarebook.com

Just read some of these amazing reviews so you get an idea how profoundly this book is helping people: http://www.eatlikeyoucarebook.com/what-people-are-saying.html

Abolitionist Approach Website: www.abolitionistapproach.com

Please read ALL of these books:  http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/

Thanks for listening and a huge thanks to my lovely guests Anna Charlton and Gary Francione

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Relevant quote:

"The fact that people won't go vegan immediately does not mean that we should ever promote anything less than veganism as morally okay. We ought always to be clear that if animals matter morally, we cannot justify consuming them. If someone who cares about animals wants to do less than go vegan, or want to go vegan in stages, let that be their choice and not our recommendation. We should *never* promote non-veganism as a morally good thing. We should *never* put a stamp of approval on animal exploitation--however "humane" it is (and it's never "humane" anyway)."  ~Gary Francione

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 ***NOTE: I AM NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH OR SUPPORT TAVS

Here is the article I spoke about: Enabling Exploitation

Here is one of the discussions on Gary Francione's facebook page:  https://www.facebook.com/abolitionistapproach/posts/647496038603487

Oh and you HAVE to read this article!!!:

Animal Welfare Regulation, “Happy Exploitation,” and Speciesism

Thanks for listening

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***NOTE: I AM NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH OR SUPPORT TAVS

Here is the facebook post I wrote : "Anyone who thinks there is no moral difference between, say, driving a car or taking public transport in vehicles that to our dismay may contain animal by-products, and for example eating a piece of cow's milk cheese, obviously doesn't realise that animals are property and what we are trying to abolish is slavery.

There is a *huge* difference between the two examples. As vegans, we are frustrated, horrified and dismayed when we learn that there are some things that we must use that against our will contain animal by products. Such as sidewalks or footpaths, plastics, car tyres etc. Huge difference.

The difference is thus: those things, those industries, those products, are not products based upon animal slavery. They are simply not. It is perfectly conceivable to have cars, concrete, paint, plastics etc, without any animal by-products in them whatsoever. And we are going to abolish that too, you just wait.

However, cow's milk cheese is a product entirely based upon, produced by and dependant on animal slavery, and slaughter. You will *never* have cow's milk cheese without exploiting cows. It is a *slave* industry.

So while as vegans we are working towards eliminating as much harm to others as we can, such as living in a world that doesn't use plastic at all would be lovely, a world in which no vegetable or fruit is produced with nonhuman slaves' manure, and in which we develop alternatives to a lot of harmful products and practices while of course eliminating any animal by products in their making, the NUMBER ONE THING we must do now is ABOLISH SLAVERY. And you *don't* do that by making twisted, incorrect comparisons between products such as vehicles (nothing to do with animal slavery, and yes we hate that there are the products of exploitation in there against our will, and watch us abolish that too! - but those products are in no way dependant on animal slavery) and animal products that people eat, wear or use that are *intrinsically* and *unavoidably* from slavery.

I hope that clears up this silliness so we can get on with being consistent in our advocacy and no more making excuses for "vegans" who deliberately and directly participate in slavery by reminding us that we can't levitate, build entire new vegan painted city buildings/homes on our own (yet) or avoid the use of transportation to our jobs.

Hey - if you can levitate - more power to you I am jealous. If you own a vegan car I love you for it. If you live in a custom house that is completely vegan painted/no animal by-product containing plastics/computer and phone the same - more power to you that is where we *all* should be headed.

But don't get it twisted, and please don't EVER EVER justify or defend slavery."

Here is the link to Gary Francione's Videos:   http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/video/#.Uf4k_BZD38s

Please watch them all.  You can see the Animals As Property video directly here also: http://vimeo.com/4807775#at=0

Read this book to inform yourself also (read ALL HIS BOOKS): http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/animals-property-and-the-law/#.Uf4lXhZD38s

And of course the new book Eat Like You Care   Here is the official website: http://www.eatlikeyoucarebook.com   If you have something positive to say, please leave a review!

Finally here are those GORGEOUS new street stalls I told you about:

Listen HERE

 ***NOTE: I AM NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH OR SUPPORT TAVS

Here is the link to Gary Francione's Plenary Speech: http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/my-plenary-talk-audio-at-the-animal-rights-2013-national-conference/#.Ud_0PBZD38t

There is also a link to the audio from the debate in the above article however here is the Youtube video of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=akFdn-sa3EM

Thank you to Alanna Andrews for uploading it, much appreciated.

Here is that pdf I mentioned that talks about human rights (from Bruce Friedrich's part of the debate): NZ Vegan Facebook posting

Here is that poster I mentioned (FB Link only sorry): https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=386347634800499&set=pb.124140001021265.-2207520000.1373629842.&type=3&theater

Hope I remembered everything!  Thanks for listening.

***NOTE: I AM NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH OR SUPPORT TAVS

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This is the essay I mentioned:  Revolution of the Heart

Quote from the essay: "The abolition of animal exploitation requires a paradigm shift. It requires that we reject violence at its most fundamental level. It requires a recognition that violence is inherently wrong. The abolition of animal exploitation requires a nonviolent revolution–a revolution of the heart."

This is, of course, the WONDERFUL vegankit! www.vegankit.com

The Boston Vegan Association:

Facebook page (to see all the activities they do!  Always have wanted to emulate them) https://www.facebook.com/bostonvegan?fref=ts

Here is their website: http://bostonvegan.org

Their wonderful Nutritional Pamphlet:  http://bostonvegan.org/system/files/page/attachments/BVA_Nutrition_Pamphlet.pdf

Please excuse the terrible sound quality (all the popped p's and t's for example) - it's just going to be that way for a while till I get Pro Tools again.  I am really sorry!!!!

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Things I mentioned:

 My podcast episode about being unequivocal: http://nzveganpodcast.blogspot.co.nz/2010/06/nz-vegan-podcast-episode-57-key-word-is.html

Article I mentioned from the Abolitionist Approach website: Veganism: Just Another Way of Reducing Suffering or a Fundamental Principle of Justice & Nonviolence?

The supremely important book I mentioned:  Introduction to Animal Rights - Your Child or the Dog ?

Here is an example of an article from The My Face is on Fire blog that is quick to analyse misrepresentations of veganism in mainstream media: http://my-face-is-on-fire.blogspot.co.nz/2013/04/vegan-challenges.html

My website: www.nzvegan.com  and the page I mentioned about sanctuaries and rescue orgs I link to: Sanctuary

Here is the group in Brasil that I mentioned: GEFRAN  (run by http://www.veganospelaabolicao.org )

An example of the posters from the Abolitionist Approach facebook page with the motto: Go Vegan, Educate Others, Adopt/Foster: POSTER

Finally the New Series: TIWISBD (Things I Wish I had Said But Didn't) that I spoke about on my NZ Vegan facebook page lol. I am sure I will be adding to this repertoire:  https://www.facebook.com/NZVegan/posts/371795796255683

Here is the link to the Huffington Post article that I mentioned in the beginning(NOTE - I forgot to mention that it only addresses diet *sigh* oh and don't look at the "celebrity 'vegan'" slideshow - MFIoF could write a few articles about that alone):  Interest in Vegan Diets on the Rise

Thanks for listening. :)

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Welcome back to the continuing series of NZ Vegan Podcast!

My final episode was not my final episode after all :)

This episode I address the one of the common issues arising from the dialogue about vegan advocacy, specifically those who say it is preferable to concentrate on the dietary and health aspect of veganism when advocating to people, rather than the moral issue.  Needless to say, I disagree.

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"People say that being a vegan creates a social problem in that others may react negatively. But isn't that the case if you take a principled position on any issue, whether it's racism, sexism, heterosexism, violence as a general matter—or speciesism? The key is to educate others about *why* you take the position." ~  Gary L. Francione

Links and articles and other things I talk about:

The Vegan Times  (website is http://vegan-times.com /) and also the Vegan Times Facebook page  by  Maya Shlayan

Vegan Cupcake Cards by Emmy James  - PLEASE NOTE: correct link address is: http://emmyjames.com/vegancards.pdf

Vegan Information Stall at School by Clare Wu

Shame, Shame: Vegan Stereotypes by Mylène Ouellet

"Please stop apologising for refusing to participate in violence" ~ Live Vegan

"Wherever the truth is injured, defend it" ~ George Bernard Shaw (not Bertrand Russell - my apologies!)

Gary Francione's Facebook Page

Animals, Property and the Law by Gary Francione  - a must read for all animal advocates!

Am I Vegan? Clearly defining who is and is NOT vegan  by Butterflies Katz

"The Challenge of Going Vegan" (As Explained by a Non-Vegan) also by My Face is on Fire

Listen HERE

A Revolution of the Heart  by Gary Francione

Single Issue Campaigns - Pruning Exploitation  - by Dan Cudahy and Angel Flinn  - the podcast version can be found here at Live Vegan's YouTube page

The ever important debate between Erik Marcus and Gary Francione

My previous podcast on the "you don't care about the animals who are suffering now" accusation.

Our NZ Vegan Facebook Page

Our OZVegan & NZVegan Facebook group

The No Kill Movement

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Here is the quote I was trying to say on the show

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~ Margaret Mead

This is the Gandhi quote I have on my 'cubicle' wall at work:

"Non-violence and truth are inseparable and presuppose one another." ~ Gandh i

Here are the posters I have on my cubicle wall at work

Here is a link to the interview of Gary Francione by Erik Marcus: M P3 or listen on the Abolitionist Approach Audio page .

Please read Gary Francione's books

Here is our Facebook Group that I talked about: Oz Vegan & NZ Vegan

Here is the link to Emmy James' new podcast that I mentioned: Activism and the Message We Want to Send

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This week I am very pleased to welcome fellow abolitionist advocate Jeffrey Coolwater. You can find Jeffrey on twitter as MacVegan

Here is the link to the blog article we discussed about Jeffrey's 10 "lost years" as a vegetarian, before he discovered veganism and abolition.

Here is a link to the groundbreaking interview that we mention of Professor Gary L. Francione on Vegan Freak Radio

You can find all the audio interviews of Professor Francione on the Audio Page of the Abolitionist Approach website

Please read Gary Francione's books! (5 of which are available at the Auckland Library)

Here is a link to the book Jeffrey mentioned by Bob and Jenna Torres: Vegan Freak: Being Vegan in a Non-Vegan World (Also available at the Auckland Library)

This is the cartoon I talked about in the podcast. (HEE HEE!! I just love it!)

~ Credit for this hilarious cartoon goes to Ignatz Ziller.

Thanks so much Jeffrey for coming on the show!

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This week I talk about something that was inspired through a conversation from the last street stall we did and also by a lot of things going on lately and in fact by all the things I have learned over the last 4 years since I went vegan.

Here is the link to the latest Foxconn Protest

Here is the link to the podcast episode I mentioned from This American Life

Here is the link to the story I talked about from the Horn of Africa (note - ignore the bit about the "cattle" and please investigate the other related stories on there such as This One and This One )

Here is a link to a petition against the NZ Food Bill , and here is the link to the Food Bill itself , and THIS is an interesting article that someone kindly sent to me about it.

Here is the link to the Vegan Pensieve article I mentioned about eggs - Warning - disturbing photos

And finally, Please Read Gary Francione's Books. The book I mention in the podcast that I quote from is Animals, Property and the Law. Publish Post

Thanks for listening

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This week I revisit something that is old news but I think still very relevant for the coming year and all years of the vegan movement, which is that we have no excuse for not promoting veganism unequivocally.

"All compromise is based on give and take, but there can be no give and take on fundamentals. Any compromise on mere fundamentals is a surrender. For it is all give and no take." ~ Ghandi

I mention a discussion where things "clicked" for me and I always recommend to all advocates to listen to this discussion between Gary Francione and Erik Marcus: listen here or access it on the Abolitionist Approach audio page (scroll down to find the interview)

I mention this article by Corey Wrenn : Academic Discrimination Against Vegans

Here is Randy Sandberg's fantastic Quotes on Slavery website where you can find a lot of history about the history of the Abolitionist Movement against slavery in the human context which can teach us a lot about the movement today to abolish all slavery, human and nonhuman.

I mention that Peaceful Prairie Sanctuary residents need hay for the winter, but anyway they always need help and also I have links to some local sanctuaries and other rescue groups in NZ - please if you are going to donate money to anyone please donate directly to helping animals such as sanctuary, adoption and rescue, rather than to welfare campaigns and organisations.

Here is a message of nonviolence for 2012 from Trish Roberts of Lobsa and LiveVegan : A Message of Nonviolence for 2012

Here's a great new article just released by Dan Cudahy and Angel Flinn for the New Year: Make the Vegan Resolution

Here is a great new article by Vincent Guihan : Vegan Outreach: how not to do it

Happy New Year everyone! :)

UPDATE: I just want to add that this particular rant of mine was not a commentary on vegans who are unequivocal vegans in their own lives, and live vegan uncompromisingly, yet don't advocate it as such as an extra activity outside of normal life as vegans, because they are just not really interested in actually being an 'activist" as it were or they are advocating other social justice issues that take up all their free time, however they live vegan; it was specifically due to experiences with vegans who are welfare advocates, with whom I was discussing activism, and their preference of promoting welfare reform, their resistance to promoting veganism at all, and their absolute refusal to do it unequivocally.

I recognise that these vegans and all vegans are challenging the status quo by being vegan, and are to an extent being advocates with regard to the example they set to those around them. I am glad for all vegans for being vegan. So I want that to be really clear. This is specifically in regard to the above-described position of welfare advocates.

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This week I talk about lots of things, including the wonderful cupcakes offered by the Vegan Education Cupcake Stall from The Alice Springs Vegan Society and their inspiration for offering free cupcakes to people, and I mention the Six Principles of the Abolitionist Approach to Animal Rights among other things. I also talk about focusing on IDEAS not PEOPLE.

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people"

~ Anonymous or Eleanor Roosevelt.

Podcast by Angel Flinn "The Vegan Evolution" - great vegan speech! -listen or you can read it here: VEGANISM: A TRUTH WHOSE TIME HAS COME: Best vegan speech

Thanks for listening :)

NOTE: I wasn't going to do this because I really didn't want to spend the time, but someone left a really long comment and I am not going to publish it, and I know they would have spent time writing it, so out of an attempt to be fair I am offering this heads up in order to prevent anyone else wasting their time on a comment that I won't publish, and I hope this can be seen as an action I am taking out of respect for other people's time:

Anyone who wishes to make guesses about any individuals I may refer to in any podcast episode whom I choose not to name (for reasons I think I have done my best to make very clear), well if that how you want to spend your time then that is your prerogative; but please do not attempt to do so here.

I am really not interested in talking about people per se, except to talk about actions and ideas, and how they relate to the issue of exploitation, and I do my best, as a human being can, to stick to that. I don't claim to be 100% successful and but I try.

When I am speaking positively, I feel comfortable naming individuals, also of course I want to promote work and ideas that support nonviolence, and the abolition of exploitation. When I am speaking critically or negatively, I prefer not to name individuals because I loathe drama, but even if I didn't it inevitably takes the focus off the real issue which should always remain the victims of exploitation, and I refuse to allow that to happen. And as this is my blog I thankfully have that ability. I also thankfully have the ability to refuse to join in on any drama to do with egos and personality clashes that are going on anywhere else. Thank goodness. :)

As hard as it is to believe, I really do just want to focus on the issues of exploitation and violence and animal use, and stand up unequivocally against them in everything I say and do, and I refuse to promote or support anything that I believe is in opposition to that. Or to waste time on anything that detracts from that.

In fact, that was the whole point of this podcast episode. Thanks for your understanding

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This week I have a very special guest over for dinner and cupcake making and podcasting - Emmy James from Peaceful Abolitionist and the Vegan For Life podcast

Emmy is the very talented designer of our NZ Vegan logo and check out these wonderful designs she hand painted onto shirts and sweatshirts also. See also the photo of Clare who we mention who has helped us at the stall and is so much fun!

Thanks for listening!

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Part two of the interview with special guest Gary L. Francione

Here is a link to the website page I am working on about Adoption/Fostering and Sanctuaries. You can find links to some of the sanctuaries and rescue organisations we mentioned in there:

http://nzvegan.wordpress.com/sanctuary-and-adoptionfostering/

Here is a link to the podcast Episode with Diane Ellis about Vegecat Vegan Cat Food : NZ Vegan Podcast Episode 60 - Special Guest Diane Ellis, spokesperson for Vegecat vegan cat food

Thanks for listening and thank you Gary Francione for coming on the show.

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Part one of the interview with special guest Gary L. Francione

Here is a link to the website page I am working on about Adoption/Fostering and Sanctuaries. You can find links to some of the sanctuaries and rescue organisations we mentioned in there:

http://nzvegan.wordpress.com/sanctuary-and-adoptionfostering/

Thanks for listening

Part two is next

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"People say that being a vegan creates a social problem in that others may react negatively. But isn't that the case if you take a principled position on any issue, whether it's racism, sexism, heterosexism, violence as a general matter—or speciesism? The key is to educate others about *why* you take the position." ~ Gary L. Francione

Here is a link to the fantastic Nutritional Pamphlets from the Boston Vegan Association or you can contact them for some copies here

Also don't forget their wonderful Vegan Pamphlet

Here is another must have for any street stall: Becoming Vegan Pamphlet

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This week I talk about how important it is that we recognise and help others to recognise that our abolitionist movement for nonviolence is still an abolitionist anti-slavery movement, and our practical focus right now with regard to addressing this problem of violence and animal use has the primary goal, initially, of creating a society in which we can address the abolition of the property status of animals, because that is still where we are at. We haven't even begun to address that! The animal movement still doesn't even have veganism as the moral baseline! But the abolitionist movement does :) By promoting veganism we will create an environment in which we can actually address that, finally! Welfare reforms are useless and do not address the property paradigm. Vegan education does. As Gary Francione said in his latest interview, part of which you can read HERE :

‎"At this point, it makes no sense to focus on the law, because as long as we regard animals as things, as a moral matter, the laws will necessarily reflect that absence of moral value and continue to do nothing to protect animals. We need to change social and moral thinking about animals before the law is going to do anything more."

Let's not allow people, neither other vegans nor anti-vegans, to shift our focus to the defeatist, overwhelmingly negative attitudes, which seem to be fixated on all the things still currently out of our control as individuals (the majority of food production, sidewalks, tyres etc) and which prompt the vegans to identify their reason for opposing vegan education as being "too pure" or "unrealistic" (which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever) and anti-vegans to make absurd claims that animal use is an action that is equal in morality to veganism.

I want us to remind people what being vegan really means, and what our abolitionist movement really means, especially at this point in history, where we are still in this incredibly non vegan world, in which chattel slavery of sentient beings is still very much accepted as the norm and in which new welfarism is the dominant paradigm and therefore welfarism is still provided and marketed by the majority of vegans as the correct response to the issue of animal use. Wrong answer! Veganism is the correct response, as we know. We just have to continue to be a clear voice, and our voice is growing. Thank you all so much, for being such wonderful, clear voices.

Please read Gary Francione's work to learn about the importance of the abolition of the property status of animals and why veganism and the promotion of veganism is the correct response, the only response to that immoral status which still exists in our world today.

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/category/podcast/

I mention Randy W. Sandberg and his wonderful advice about not feeding trolls (I am still trying to find the article he shared, will post when I find it..)

I mention Trisha Roberts from LiveVegan and her wonderful messages about insects, and I mention her organisation lobsa.org

I mentioned a video about nuclear pollution, posted by Renata Peters from The Alice Springs Vegan Society which you can also check out here at the latest article on Myl ène Ouellet's blog My Face is on Fire

Thanks for listening :)

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Here is the link to the Shirtless Dancing Guy video I mentioned:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW8amMCVAJQ

This is the link to the Coexisting With Nonhuman Animals episode about the Oprah Show that I mentioned: Episode 46 - Oprah Goes... Vegan, "Veg*n","veganish"...

Here is the link to the latest Abolitionist Approach Commentary Number 24, an interview by Gary L. Francione with Rob Johnson creator of the blog Animal Rights UK and founding member of Grampion Animal Rights (which in typical me fashion I accidentally called Aberdeen Animal Rights, all my friends ought to be used to my getting things all mixed up by now, but I again apologise for mis-naming another organisation/website etc) and Vegan UK :

Commentary 24: Vegan Advocacy in the UK

Thanks for listening!

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This is the article about China's factory conditions I mentioned:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/china/news/article.cfm?l_id=28&objectid=10722773

Here is a link to the YouTube channel for Paola Aldana that I mentioned:

http://www.youtube.com/user/porolita22 (English)

http://www.youtube.com/user/porolita (Español)

Here is a quote from Gary Francione on the word "compassion" (in relation to what I talk about at the very end of the podcast):

" Is our obligation not to be racist or sexist a matter of " compassion "? No. it's a matter of justice. Same with nonhuman animals"

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In part two of the interview we discuss single issue campaigns, in relation to the recent debate that Professor Francione took part in with Dario Ringach which was partly the inspiration of the blog essay:

Why Veganism Must Be the Baseline

which I recommend as a must read for all advocates.

We also discuss the latest Abolitionist Approach blog essay:

Nothing to Do with Science

in which the latest attempt at using the age old "plant question" is addressed.

Thank you, Professor Francione!

LISTEN HERE

Relevant links to this podcast:

Veganism as a Minimum Standard of Decency  by Dan Cudahy from Unpopular Vegan Essays

The articles about the Vegan Society's advertising of non vegan establishments, inluding a pdf of a thread on facebook that was deleted after they shamefully deleted Gary Francione from the page:

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/i-wonder-what-donald-watson-founder-of-the-vegan-society-would-think/

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/its-not-1946/

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-need-for-a-vegan-society/

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/pdf/why-are-non-vegan-restaurants-advertised-in-the-vegan.pdf

The article on John Robbins I mentioned, by Mylène Ouellet :

http://my-face-is-on-fire.blogspot.com/2010/07/animal-advocacy-leaders-hall-of-fail.html

And finally, a response to the latest claims by welfare advocates pointing to the same study each time it seems:

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/science-weighs-in-animal-welfare-reform-is-useless/

Thanks for listening

NOTE: cats are obligate carnivores, and they require TAURINE in order to live.  The food I am talking about below is supplemented with Taurine.  

I was recently chatting on Skype with my friend Diane Ellis ,  my guest from NZ Vegan Podcast  Episode 60  about Buda and her new svelte and beautiful body, and we compared some photos that I had taken of Buda from before I switched her to the Vegecat  homemade cat food supplements and recipes from Harbingers of a New Age , and then looked at some photos I had taken now, and we both gasped when we saw them!

The change in 5 - 6 months has been amazing!  Not only has she lost all that excess weight, but her fur is shiny and she is light on her feet.  She bounds across the lawn with all four legs off the ground, I had never seen her do that before now.

Buda is getting on in years.  I first met her just over 7 years ago in NYC in 2003.  I took her with me because she was not in a good situation, and she never had been in her life.  It wasn't as bad as some cats have been through, but she had been abused, neglected and unloved, and so my then boyfriend and I decided I would adopt her, and so I did.  The person she was living with then told me he thought she was around 6 years old.  If that were true (and I don't know if it is) that would make her 13 to 14 years old now.  I don't know how accurate his estimate was, but even if she was only 2 or 3 years old at the time that would still make her 9 - 10 now, which is starting to get up there.

If I hadn't switched her diet I hate to think where she would be headed.  I used to have nightmares about the dreaded diabetes and kidney disease and all manner of other sicknesses.  I was constantly worried for her.  I had tried to put her on "diets" when I was feeding her commercial food, but since the time I took her in to get spayed, back in 2003, she instantly doubled and stayed overweight from then on.  She had been going into heat constantly for years when I met her, so she was much slimmer, as soon as she was spayed she just ballooned in size and as her energy level was never very high to begin with, because she had been abused and was used to just hiding under the table and keeping quiet, she never recovered and just got fatter and fatter.

After talking with Diane on my podcast I swore I was going to get Buda and Zsebi off commercial pet food, and after a time, using the advice she gave me and trying out the different recipes  until I found one they enjoyed, I succeeded. (P.S I don't make the kibble, I make the fresh cooked recipes).

As the weight loss was gradual over months, I didn't notice just how stunning it was until I went back and saw that photo of her that I had sent to Diane all those months ago.  The difference was breathtaking!

Check it out:

This is Buda in September, 2010

Look how fat she was poor baby.  And her fur was dull, and I am sure her little joints must have ached. Not to mention how ridiculously tiny her head looks. :(

This was taken on Valentines Day, 2011. 

Look at her shiny svelte body!  Isn't it amazing?

Her body is finally in proportion with her little head

Rubbing around my feet as I am getting her dinner :)

So there you have it, another success story!  Thank you Harbingers of a New Age and Diane Ellis !  We will be doing another podcast soon where I talk about Zsebi and Buda and their healthy new diet.  P.S this is a recent picture of Zsebi.  She is one of the most energetic and crazy little kittens I have ever known.  She loves the food!  She loves all kinds of food!  Buda is fussy, but Zsebi will eat anything, in fact I have to keep an eye on her.  She races around all day long, but I managed to catch her keeping still long enough to take a couple of photos :)

She hardly sits still so it's difficult to get a non blurry photo when she is awake, she is so curious she jumps up to see what I am doing

 

See what I mean? lol

So I wait until she is asleep with her little tongue sticking out hee hee

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This week I am very pleased to have as my special guest Niilo Van Steinburg who is the founder and one of the directors of the very successful abolitionist vegan university group at the University of Victoria, Canada, the UVic Vegan Association .

If you live in British Columbia you can subscribe to the UVic Vegan Association by emailing them at:

uvacontact@gmail.com

You can also join their facebook fan page at: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11596410542

Also check out Niilo's blog Seeking Non-Specisism  from where he will be soon producing his very own abolitionist vegan podcast!!!  We can't wait to hear it!

The forum we mentioned is http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/forum/  where you can find Niilo's "abolitionist mom" Joe and other great advocates, discussing abolitionist veganism and all kinds of other things.

Thanks for coming on the show Niilo!

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A thought for the future; not knowing is a wiser way to live in a lot of ways.

Those who say, do not know; those who know, do not say. ~ Lao Tzu

And don't be overwhelmed by those darn animal product use diagrams making the rounds, you know the ones I mean, they are very "popular" amongst poverty of ambition advocates as another excuse for despairing!  Let them spur you on to be even more active and even more determined.

LISTEN HERE  (Huge apologies for the terrible audio quality, I hit record without first verifying the input, so instead of my logitech headphones it was set to the inbuilt mic, which is why there is all that noise and stuff.  It happens sometimes lol )

Here is the article of the interview with Gary Francione that I mentioned: http://www.free.org.il/english/articles/gary.html

(What he says is about "passivity" and exactly is not necessarily what I paraphrased, but it certainly made me understand that the "pacifist" claim made against us is trying to insinuate "passivity" and that is not true).

Here is another quote from Gary Francione about this subject:

"Those who claim that the abolitionist approach [to animal rights] advises inactivity misunderstand that the idea is to engage in *effective* advocacy rather than in wheel-spinning and counterproductive activity that generates donations and bequests for large groups."

Here is the article by Randy Sandberg on his Vegans for Peace website that I mentioned:

http://vegansforpeace.org/2010/03/13/why-are-you-a-vegetarian/

Here is the article by Emmy James that I mentioned:

Facebook lin k (you will probably only be able to see it if you are a facebook contact of Emmy's)

Here is the quote by Mylène Ouellet that I mentioned:

http://quotesonslavery.org/whats-hard-about-veganism-isnt-being-vegan/

Here is the must read article Why Veganism by Eva Batt:

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/text/why-veganism-by-eva-batt/

Also available HERE

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This week I speak with William Paul my fellow abolitionist street staller and vegan advocate from Auckland.  We discuss the NZ Vegetarian Society Festival that was held in October, our future plans for advocacy and we also discuss the Auckland Abolitionist Vegans Association, which we will be launching soon!

Congratulations to Jordan Wyatt from Coexisting with Nonhuman Animals for creating the Invercargill Vegan Society!

Become a member if you live nearby, or become an honorary member by going to this blog entry and leaving a comment:

http://coexistingwithnonhumananimals.blogspot.com/2010/12/invercargill-vegan-society-business.html

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Revelations!   Now I am wondering if that WAS indeed my first exposure to a video showing animal use, or have I repressed other memories from my specieisist past...?

Here is a link to the article I mentioned from the UK abolitionists that made the Aberdeen Voice

Here is a link to the article I mentioned on the Vegan Salt blog: Guest Post

Thanks for listening!

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here is a photo of Duffy in his hopefully new and permanent home:

This is the link to Professor Gary Francione's latest commentary where he gives great advice about talking to non vegans about veganism: Five Principles

This is a link to Barbara DeGrande's latest podcast about personal relationships as a vegan: Dating While Vegan

Here is a link to Mylène Ouellet's latest article: What's Sometimes Hardest

Here is a link to Adam Kochanowicz's Vegan Help Bot I mentioned: http://twitter.com/veganhelp

and to his website: Vegan FM

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This podcast is dedicated to Duffy

This week I talk about a situation I personally dealt with and how I chose to deal with it, and I ask everyone to comment if there are anything someone feels needs to be said.

I also quote from one of my favourite websites, Quotes on Slavery and this is the quote I chose to read:

"I will be as harsh as truth, and as uncompromising as justice"

Thanks for listening

 

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This week I speak of an email I received, special thanks to Doug Hines, and I speak of a wonderful concept that was given to me by Randy Sandberg.

Please visit the wonderful Quotes on Slavery website: http://quotesonslavery.org/

Here is a quote I think relevant to the theme of this podcast:

"A common criticism is that the time is not yet ripe for our reform. Can time ever be ripe for any reform unless it is ripened by human determination? Did Wilberforce wait for the ripening of time before he commenced his fight against slavery? Did Edwin Chadwick, Lord Shaftesbury, and Charles Kingsley wait for such a non-existent moment before trying to convince the great dead weight of public opinion that clean water and bathrooms would be an improvement? If they had declared their intention to poison everybody the opposition they met could hardly have been greater. There is an obvious danger in leaving the fulfilment of our ideals to posterity, for posterity may not have our ideal. Evolution can be retrogressive as well as progressive, indeed there seems always to be a strong gravitation the wrong way unless existing standards are guarded and new visions honoured. For this reason we have formed our [Vegan] Group, the first of its kind, we believe, in this or any other country.

~ Donald Watson (November, 1944 )"

 http://quotesonslavery.org/a-common-criticism-is-that-the-time-is-not-yet-ripe-for-our-reform/

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Analysing the sociology behind the posting of pictures of flesh and animal products on Animal Rights internet forums. 

Special guests Roger Yates from On Human Nonhuman Relations , and wonderful abolitionist advocate Timothy E. Putnam !

Enjoy

I forgot to add that in honour of Dr. Yates this is a BELLS podcast.

(Bells courtesy of Zsebi the kitten)

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This episode it was a pleasure and a joy to feature Diane Ellis who was referred to me by James Peden from Harbingers of a New Age, creators of Vegecat and Vegedog.  Diane is their spokesperson, and is among other things an expert on feline nutrition, who has successfully raised three cats (and two dogs - of course!) on diets free from animal products, which is a success story I wish we could hear more of.

She has very positive experiences and lots of great knowledge to share, for those who are interested in the issue, those who have tried to implement a dietary change for their felines (such as myself) and were not successful, or for those who are considering doing so now or in the future, in order for them to make an informed decision and hear positive and helpful information.

We talk about Diane's wonderful cats Tomato, Razzie and Coconut, and I hope to have photos and videos soon.  We talk about how the Vegecat food was created, and how important it is to follow the recipes provided by Harbingers of a New Age, as they were specially formulated with the help of a veterinarian Andrew Knight.  We mention the horrors of commercial pet food and talk about the fear that many vegans have that they will harm their feline refugees if they attempt to feed them anything but a meat based diet, and discuss why some cats have not thrived on other vegan diet foods.

You can contact Diane for advice and help through: leadwithyourheart@msn.com

The following websites were mentioned in the podcast and are the links to the information about commercial diets, and also to the website containing information about Vegecat vegan cat food from Harbingers of a New Age.

(Note and disclaimer: I am providing any links listed below due to the pertinent information to the issues and products discussed in this podcast episode.   I do not necessarily endorse or agree with absolutely everything stated on these sites.  Additionally I do not necessarily endorse links that are provided on these sites.)

http://www.vegepet.com/forcats.html

http://www.vegepets.info/pages/meat_based_commercial_diets.htm

 Thanks Diane for coming on the show!

UPDATE:

Diane has asked me to post this update, because she wants people to be aware that although she loves the fact that people are interested and need advice, she does have to make a living, and cannot answer every single email!  You can also go to her website to reference advice on this matter also: http://www.leadwithyourheart.net/Homemade_Vege_Meals.php where there is listed a limited time discounted price list for consultations in case you are able:

$75.00 per a 1 hour session for all pets and humans in the same household.

$45.00 per a 30 minute session per one household.

These reduced prices will expire on December 31st, 2010.

If you get some Vegecat remember that the creator of the product James Peden is very knowledgeable and helpful also, and their website has tons of FAQs.

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This week I have the absolute pleasure of interviewing new NZ abolitionist podcaster and animator Emmy James from the Vegan For Life Podcast.  We talk about her journey to veganism, her animation and podcast, and her plans for the future as a vegan in this world.

Enjoy!  Thanks to Emmy for coming on the show, please listen to her podcast!

Here is a link to the Vegan For Live Blog: http://vegan-for-life.blogspot.com/

To access the podcast on iTunes click HERE

This is a link to Emmy's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/veggiegirl142

PLEASE VOTE for Emmy's design: Corel Digital Art Competition Emmy James

We mentioned Sam from Food for Though Radio

And Jordan Wyatt from Coexisting With Nonhuman Animals

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This week I talk about too much stuff to write about here, but the following are all the relevant links:

The NEW NZ ABOLITIONIST VEGAN PODCAST from Vegan For Life

Now available in iTunes

Mylène Ouellet's podcast is also on iTunes

Veganacious ' Barbara DeGrande new podcast episode is here oo and here is an interview she did with Mylène!  Darn, I knew I had missed something out! >:(

Sam Tucker's latest episode can be accessed through this page

LiveVegan's podcast can be accessed through their You Tube channel here

*Gasp* I hope I didn't miss something out.

OOPS I did it again.  Oh dear.   I said Four thousand eight hunded animals were killed by PETA in 2009 but according to the article it was 2, 352.  However, that doesn't change my point,  still  I apologise for again getting my figures wrong:

8 Animals on Opposing Views by Gary Francione

That link is to an opposing views page that linked to an Abolitionist Approach blog entry related to the story.  Have a look at the comments and you will see what I mean.  For example, the comment by Heidi Parker, Mail Coordinator, PETA Foundation and the comment immediately following her comment, for that matter.

Here is a link to the Vegan Examiner Adam Kochanowicz's article on the Mercy For Animals video: My Thoughts on MFA's video

Here is a link to the article about the UN: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jun/02/un-report-meat-free-diet

Finally, here is a link to Vegan Poet M. Butterflies Katz's blog where she has the articles: The Vegan Truth

I hope I remembered everything!

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This week I talk about a Veganism is not a diet, and I also just want to clarify some of the things I said last time, just to avoid any confusion or misunderstanding.  Also, I have a new update about my profile from my job, there is a permanent entry and they have put a link to this website, for which I am very surprised and pleased :)

Here is a link to the new profile:

http://www.vetcare.net.nz/elizabeth.html

This is the link to the CNN article that I mention:

Global bake sale is 'sweet' activism

And this is the link to the article I mention from My Face is on Fire :

Flirting With Hypocrisy -- A 'Kinda" Diet

Thanks for listening!

LISTEN TO THE PODCAST HERE

This week I talk about my new job, the new member of my family, domestication and why I am more and more opposed to it every day, and I talk about the irrelevancy of the abortion issue to animal rights.

Here is a link to the "Elizabeth Collins cont'd" part of my "profile" from my new job (scroll down):

http://www.vetcare.net.nz/about_us.html

This is the link to the debate on Michael Medved's radio show between Gary L.  Francione and Wesley J.Smith:

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/mp3/michael-medved-20100416.mp3

This is a link to the article requesting people to call in next time:

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/live-call-in-on-michael-medveds-radio-program/

These are the links to the discussion about promoting veganism: FIrstly the original article by Stephanie Ernst that started the discussion off:

http://challengeoppression.com/2010/04/15/a-vegan-but-not-an-activist-sure-an-animal-lover-but-not-a-vegan-nope/

Then Mylène's article:

http://my-face-is-on-fire.blogspot.com/2010/04/on-doing-more-than-bare-minimum.html

Gary Francione's twitlonger:

http://www.facebook.com/notes/livevegan/are-we-morally-obligated-as-individuals-to-promote-veganism-beyond-our-being-veg/383405213859 - (You have to belong to LiveVegan on facebook to read this) or you can read it here: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/u06pr

Ditto this one, Dave Langlois twitlonger: http://www.facebook.com/notes/livevegan/duties-narrow-and-wide-twitlonger-by-david-langlois/383376633859 - or you can read it here: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/u047j

Here is a link to LiveVegan's new PODCAST on YouTube where this is also discussed:

http://www.youtube.com/livevegan#p/a/u/2/H5UjOpU8hj8

And Vincent Guihan discusses it here also: http://weotheranimals.blogspot.com/2010/04/is-activism-obligation-some-thoughts.html

Finally, meet Zsebi (she put herself there, she is looking for comfort always, because normally she would be surrounded by furry, purring momma and brothers and sisters).

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This week I relate some experiences from the street stall in the hopes that it will help anyone else who is promoting veganism to people.  Big shout out to William Paul for all his help and for being such a wonderful street stall colleague.

I also mention some new developments:

Barbara De Grande from Veganacious is doing a podcast!!!  Please subscribe on iTunes here and you can also listen to the first episode here .

Props to Jordan Wyatt from Coexisting with Nonhuman Animals for helping to make this happen.

OOO I just went to the blog to post the link and there is a NEW EPISODE UP !  You can access it here or I recommend subscribing on iTunes .

I also talk about singer-songwriter Ben Frost who is writing music in support of Animal Rights and posting the videos on YouTube

The first song is called I Am Someone - A Call for Veganism and the second one is called Killed for Taste, Loved for Companionship - The Notes of Moral Schizophrenia

Please subscribe to Ben on YouTube here

I mention a great new blog called Full Irish Vegan .  This is the bread I made: Wheaten Loaf Masquerading as Soda Bread.   It was so easy and delicious, especially with vegan butter and jam.

I talk about Professor Francione new commentary number 16.  Please listen here or even better, subscribe to the commentary on iTunes.

I mention Colleen Patrick Goudreau's podcast episode where she talks about personal choice.  You can hear it here

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This week I read a statement from a group of Abolitionist Vegan Feminists, including myself, voicing our objection to sexism in the animal movement.  You can also read the statement as iit is posted in various blogs whose links are below, also Porolita has read it on her YouTube channel, in English and in Spanish, and I hope to read it in Spanish also for my NZ Vegano Podcast.  I hope you enjoy and I REALLY hope you agree with it :-)

Thanks for listening. 

The essay has been signed by the following advocates :

Jo Charlebois - http://thestartingpointisveganism.blogspot.com/

Vera Cristofani

Kerry Wyler

Mylène Ouellet - http://my-face-is-on-fire.blogspot.com/

Elizabeth Collins - http://nzveganpodcast.blogspot.com/

Trisha Roberts - http://lobsa.org/

Ana María Aboglio - http://anima.org.ar/

Paola Aldano de Meoño - http://www.youtube.com/porolita22 Karin Hilpisch  - http://abolitionismusabschaffungdertiers.blogspot.com/ Renata Peters   Here are the sites featuring the essay:

My Face is on Fire

The Starting Point

Porolita22

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This week I talk about how I personally deal with the accusation that advocates of the abolitionist approach "don't care about animals who are suffering NOW!"  For starters, I strongly recommend listening to this debate (there is a link to the audio in the post itself. Please listen):

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/my-dinner-at-eriks-happy-meat-diner/

and I strongly STRONGLY recommend reading Rain Without Thunder .  Please please read this book.

I also talk about how the focus of all our interactions with each other and anyone with whom we are engaging with this issue should remain on the real issue leaving ego and personality out of it. Whether or not you like me is unimportant, it is what I am saying that matters.  If you don't like what I am saying, let's talk about that not about whether or not you like my personality.  That conversation is an unforgivable waste of both our time.  As a wonderful advocate @VeraVeganA said yesterday:

"When ppl call me names & I feel sad, I rapidly focus on nonhumans again & keep on track"

Now that is what I'm talking about Vera! 

I also talk about Professor Gary Steiner who did this great interview on Animal World:

Animal World Doctor Gary Steiner: A Vegan Diet is a Moral Obligation

You can download both parts 1 and 2 (scroll down to the bottom of the screen)

Finally I talk about my revamped AUT University Club, here is the website, please let me know what you think (it is still not finished yet). A million thanks to William Paul for all the help.

http://autanimalrights.weebly.com/

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This week I speak to fellow NZ abolitionist and podcaster Sam Tucker about single issue campaigns, welfarist thinking and what the future may hold for a 14 year old vegan.  We also speak a little bit about living in a farming community and advocating for veganism at a school where many of the students actually live on farms themselves.

In this episode we talk about Sam's radio show and podcast, which can be accessed from the following site:

http://fftradio.wordpress.com/

We mention the last fft radio episode (which will be available in iTunes soon):

Johnny Weir and Single Issue Campaigns

Here is the article profiling Sam on Veganacious

Fierce at Fourteen

Follow Sam on Twitter:

@fftradio

And we also discuss another recent single issue campaign in New Zealand, you can read a local newspaper article about it here:

Auckland SPCA to destroy catch-a-cray games

Thanks Sam for coming on the show!

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This week I talk about Victor Schonfeld's article in the Guardian newspaper and Ingrid Newkirk's response in the same paper.  Please go on there and comment, please help us spread the vegan message.  It is really happening, I can feel it in my bones.

These are the links

Five Fatal Flaws of Animal Activism

(Victor Schonfeld)

A pragmatic fight for animal rights

(Ingrid Newkirk)

Please read this latest blog post (and then go on to read the entire site of course) by Vincent Guihan of We Other Animals which really nicely illustrates some of the things I am bumbling on about today.

Hegemonic Tendancies

Thanks for listening!

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This week I welcome back to the show my first ever podcast listener Jordan Wyatt from the Coexisting with Nonhuman Animals podcast, and we discuss his podcast about veganism and animal rights, what it is like to be vegan in Southland, talking to NZ farmers about veganism, the economy, the issue of sterilization, the counter movement of industry advertising and other things.

You can find Jordan's blog here:

Coexisting with Nonhuman Animals

You can subscribe to his podcast via iTunes here

Follow Jordan on twitter:

jaywontdart

and on Facebook:

#/jaywontdart

Thanks Jordan for coming back on the show!

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This week I talk to Pao Aldana AKA Porolita, who lives in Guatemala and is spreading the vegan message on YouTube in English and in Spanish, plus educating people in her local community about veganism and abolition.  We talk about Porolita's journey to veganism, the ease and necessity of abolitionist advocacy, the usefulness of social networking sites like YouTube to spread ideas, and what it is like to be vegan in Guatemala.   Please check out Porolita's great videos on her YouTube channel:

Porolita22

and here is the video featuring her Mom, talking about her experience with illness and her doctor's advice that she immediately switch to a vegan diet in order to save her health, and what happened after:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePc0m24aDVQ&feature=email

This is the link to Porolita's vegan cooking blog (in Spanish) which she uses to educate members of her community or the surrounding regions on how easy and cheap it is to sustain a vegan diet in Guatemala and therefore other countries with similar climates and food types:

La Lonchera de Un Vegan

This is the link to the BBC World One Planet documentary that we discussed on the podcast:

Animals and Us Part 1

Animals and Us Part 2

I would like to thank Porolita for coming on my podcast!  Enjoy!

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I have had a wonderful week hanging out with my fellow NZ abolitionists William and Vish, and we had a chance to do the street stall together!  This epidsode we talk about our experiences on Queen Street in our first street stall event of 2010.

We also mention Part 1 of the BBC Documentary Animals and Us which is archived here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p005k2zy

Thanks Vish for coming up to Auckland to visit us and thanks to both William and Vish for helping with the street stall and for coming on the podcast.

Enjoy!

And remember; THE WORLD IS VEGAN!  If we want it.

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This week I am very pleased to have back as my guest William Paul.  We talk about his experience as a peaceful activist and how about an occurrence where he was challenged on his nonviolence stance while speaking out against violence.  We also talk about the NZ Vegan Society's Big Book of Vegan Products which is a fantastic new resource by this great new NZ Vegan Society .  We discuss the up-and-coming (we hope) SAFE vegan campaign and whether it will actually happen, how it will happen and whether it will it actually be a vegan campaign that we can get behind, among other things.

Also as both William and I have unfortunately been without internet access for a week, coincidentally, we came back online to discover the recent development of a wonderful new resource for vegan advocacy by Gary Francione and the team at The Abolitionist Approach which is based on John Lennon and Yoko Ono's "War is Over if you want it" Times Square Billboard:

The World is Vegan! If you want it .

Links:

theworldisvegan.com

William Paul on Facebook

William Paul on Twitter

The NZ Vegan Society on Facebook (please join and show your support!)

Please look at all the resources for The World is Vegan! if you want it resources from:

Vincent Guihan at We Other Animals

Adam Kochanowicz at The Vegan News

John Colvin

Please also read this NOTE from Professor Francione about the billboard:

Thanks everyone for all this great work and thanks to William for coming back on the show!

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Just articulating some things that I have been trying to come to terms with lately, specifically this desire to see "results" and to claim responsibility for things we really have no right to claim responsibility for.

When someone takes animal rights seriously and goes vegan, it's their "victory" and no one else's.  The benefit is for all, but the credit for that is given to the individual who takes that action.  And alternatively if people resist and turn away, that also lies with them.  Let us pay closer attention to our own actions as individuals and if more of us do that, advocates especially, then I think there will be some wonderful "results".

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The second half of my conversation with Adam Kochanowicz where we talk about issues and opinions and share experiences as two advocates for abolitionist veganism in this speciesist, welfarist world! Enjoy!

Please check out the interview with Gary Francione at The Vegan News :

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This week I was chatting with Adam Kochanowicz , as we often do, and we thought it would be an interesting experiment to post our conversations about events and about what we think and what we are

doing, and see if anyone else can relate!

Please check out the interview with Gary Francione at The Vegan News :

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