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President Donald Trump’s countless executive orders and mounting deportations are testing America’s democratic institutions. On this week’s On the Media, what we can learn from Hungary’s recent backslide into autocracy. Plus, why resistance movements throughout history have succeeded with 3.5 percent of the population, or less, behind them.

[01:36] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Andrew Marantz , a staff writer at The New Yorker, about his recent piece, “Is the U.S. Becoming an Autocracy?” and what we can learn from Hungary’s recent backsliding into authoritarianism.

[16:17] Micah speaks with Márton Gulyás, founder of Partizán , Hungary’s leading independent news show, about what lessons journalists in the US might take away from his experience.

[37:53] Micah sits down with Maria J. Stephan , political scientist and co-author of Why Civil Resistance Works , to dissect the 3.5% rule, a statistic that’s been making its rounds on social media, which is a measurement of the power of collective action. Stephan and her co-researcher Erica Chenoweth first coined the term in 2010.

Further reading:
“Is the U.S. Becoming an Autocracy? ” by Andrew Marantz “Big Tents and Collective Action Can Defeat Authoritarianism ,” by Maria J. Stephan Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict , by Erica Chenoweth and Maria J. Stephan

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This past weekend, OTM co-host Micah Loewinger went to Seattle to sit down with an all-time favourite guest of the show: tech activist and writer Cory Doctorow. We recorded the following conversation in front of a live audience at the Cascade PBS Ideas festival. The topic was “Enshittification” – Cory’s theory of how everything on the internet got worse.

We first discussed this idea on the show a couple years ago – and this was an opportunity to talk about what enshittification looks like right now: the latest attempts by tech companies to take advantage of users and workers, and the surge of lawsuits attempting to hold these companies to account.

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On Tuesday, NPR and three Colorado public radio stations sued the Trump administration for violating the First Amendment. On this week’s On the Media, the soon-to-be lone Democratic commissioner at the FCC speaks out against what she calls the weaponization of her agency. Plus, the final episode of The Divided Dial introduces the unlikely group trying to take over shortwave radio.

[01:37] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Anna Gomez, soon to be the lone Democratic commissioner at the Federal Communications Commission, about her makeshift media tour–where Gomez is speaking out about what she sees as the weaponization of her agency.

[12:47] Episode 4 of The Divided Dial , Season 2: Wall St. Wants Your Airwaves . In recent years, creative, often music-focused pirate broadcasting has been thriving on shortwave. Reporter Katie Thornton reveals how these surreptitious broadcasters are up against a surprising enemy: not the FCC, but a deep-pocketed group of finance bros that is trying to wrestle the airwaves away from the public, and use them for a money-making scheme completely antithetical to broadcasting. What do we lose when we give up our public airwaves?

Further reading:
Remarks of FCC Commissioner Anna M. Gomez at the 2025 Media Institute Communications Forum , May 15, 2025

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EPISODE 4

In recent years, creative, often music-focused pirate broadcasting has been thriving on shortwave. But these surreptitious broadcasters are up against a surprising ideological foe: Not the FCC, but a deep-pocketed group of finance bros that is trying to wrestle the airwaves away from the public, and use them for a money-making scheme completely antithetical to broadcasting. What do we lose when we give up our public airwaves?

The Divided Dial was supported in part by a grant from the Fund for Investigative Journalism

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Before they were appointed, the leaders of the F.B.I. boosted misinformation about a ‘deep state.’ Now they’re in power, they’ve become the focus of conspiracy theories. On this week’s On the Media, how MAGA infighting about Jeffrey Epstein reveals a greater problem for the Republican Party. Plus, the story of one of the world's farthest-reaching radio stations: a haven for extremists based in small-town Maine.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger talks with Will Sommer , senior reporter at The Bulwark, about why the Trump White House’s allegiance with conspiracy theorists is souring, and how Jeffrey Epstein is dividing the MAGA base.

[09:04] Episode 3 of The Divided Dial , Season 2: World's Last Chance Radio . In the internet era, much of the shortwaves have been left to the most extreme voices — including a conspiratorial flat earth ministry, and an ultra-conservative cult complete with everything from sexual abuse to dead infants and illegal burials. In the 737-person northern Maine town of Monticello, reporter Katie Thornton explores one of the world's farthest-reaching radio stations that has given them a home, pumping out extremism and conspiracy theories to the world as the voice of American broadcasting.

Join us on June 11th for a conversation between OTM's Micah Loewinger and journalist Katie Thornton about The Divided Dial. Click here to buy tickets.

Further reading:
“The Real Reason Trump World Just Can’t Quit Conspiracy Theories,” Will Sommer

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EPISODE 3

Today, in the internet era, much of the shortwaves have been left to the most extreme voices — including a conspiratorial flat earth ministry, and an ultra-conservative cult complete with everything from sexual abuse to dead infants and illegal burials. In the 737-person northern Maine town of Monticello, one of the world's farthest-reaching radio stations has given them a home, pumping out extremism and conspiracy theories to the world as the voice of American broadcasting.

The Divided Dial was supported in part by a grant from the Fund for Investigative Journalism.

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On Monday, dozens of Afrikaners arrived in the US as refugees. On this week’s On the Media, how a fringe group of white South Africans have been lobbying for Donald Trump’s attention for almost a decade — but refugee status was never on their wish list. Plus, the second episode of The Divided Dial, all about how rightwing extremists took over shortwave radio.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger talks with Carolyn Holmes , a professor of political science at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, about the arrival of white South African refugees in the US, why Afrikaner white rights groups are objecting to the policy, and the long-standing exchange of ideas between white nationalist elites in the US and South Africa.

[16:42] Episode 2 of The Divided Dial , Season 2: You Must Form Your Militia Movements . Many governments eased off the shortwaves after the Cold War, and homegrown US-based rightwing extremists edged out shortwave peaceniks to fill the void. Reporter Katie Thornton explores how in the 1990s, US shortwave radio stations became a key organizing and recruiting ground for white supremacists and the burgeoning anti-government militia movement. On this instantaneous, international medium, they honed a strategy and a rhetoric that they would take to the early internet and beyond.

Further reading:
“Tucker Carlson, those South African white rights activists aren’t telling you the whole truth,” by Carolyn Holmes (2019) “‘Kill the Boer’: The anti-apartheid song Musk ties to ‘white genocide’” by Nick Dall

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EPISODE 2

Many governments eased off the shortwaves after the Cold War, and homegrown US-based rightwing extremists edged out shortwave peaceniks to fill the void. In the 1990s, US shortwave radio stations became a key organizing and recruiting ground for white supremacists and the burgeoning anti-government militia movement. On this instantaneous, international medium, they honed a strategy and a rhetoric that they would take to the early internet and beyond.

The Divided Dial was supported in part by a grant from the Fund for Investigative Journalism.

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President Trump’s many executive orders, detentions, and deportations have triggered a host of lawsuits. On this week’s On the Media, how to understand the dozens of legal actions facing Trump. Plus, it’s the first episode of The Divided Dial, all about the battle for shortwave radio.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger talks with Chris Geidner , who has covered the Supreme Court for most of his career and writes for Law Dork , about how he tracks the 100+ lawsuits challenging President Trump’s actions, the patterns emerging from the deluge of cases, and how the legal battles against the Trump administration have actually been more successful than the public may perceive.

[14:25] Episode 1 of The Divided Dial , Season 2: Fishing in the Night. You know AM and FM radio. But did you know that there is a whole other world of radio surrounding us at all times? It’s called shortwave — and, thanks to a quirk of science that lets broadcasters bounce radio waves off of the ionosphere, it can reach thousands of miles, penetrating rough terrain and geopolitical boundaries. Reporter Katie Thornton on how this instantaneous, global, mass communication tool — a sort of internet-before-the-internet — transformed from a utopian experiment in international connection to a hardened tool of information warfare and propaganda.

Further reading:
The horrors are not aberrations. This is the Trump administration's plan , by Chris Geidner The pushback against Trump's lawlessness is real — and making a difference , by Chris Geidner

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EPISODE 1:

You know AM and FM radio. But did you know that there is a whole other world of radio surrounding us at all times? It’s called shortwave — and, thanks to a quirk of science that lets broadcasters bounce radio waves off of the ionosphere, it can reach thousands of miles, penetrating rough terrain and geopolitical boundaries. How did this instantaneous, global, mass communication tool — a sort of internet-before-the-internet — go from a utopian experiment in international connection to a hardened tool of information warfare and propaganda?

The Divided Dial was supported in part by a grant from the Fund for Investigative Journalism.

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To mark his first hundred days in office, President Trump signed three executive orders related to immigration. On this week’s On the Media, the powerful database that can help I.C.E. track down and deport people. Plus, the dramatic fight for power over Rupert Murdoch’s media empire.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone talks with Jason Koebler , co-founder of 404 Media , about how a surveillance company is supplying ICE with a powerful database to identify and deport people with minor infractions or certain characteristics.

[20:57] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Jason Leopold , a senior investigative reporter at Bloomberg and writer of the newsletter “FOIA Files,” about the Trump administration’s attacks on Freedom of Information Act offices at the CDC and FDA, and what they mean for the future of government transparency.

[31:50] Brooke talks with McKay Coppins , a staff writer at The Atlantic, about the remarkable, extensive interviews he conducted with members of the Murdoch family — particularly James Murdoch and his wife Kathryn. (Rupert and his eldest son, Lachlan, declined to participate.) Plus, how the HBO show “Succession” influenced the family’s fight over the future of their own media empire.

Further reading:
Inside a Powerful Database ICE Uses to Identify and Deport People , by Jason Koebler Trump Filed a FOIA Request. We FOIAed His FOIA , by Jason Leopold Growing Up Murdoch: James Murdoch on mind games, sibling rivalry, and the war for the family media empire , by McKay Coppins

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The Redstone family is a controlling shareholder of Paramount Global — one of the biggest entertainment companies out there. (Think CBS Entertainment, MTV, Nickelodeon.) The family is also one of the inspirations for HBO's Succession , which makes sense the more you get to know them.

Shari Redstone currently has the controlling stake in Paramount Global. Company leadership was carefully criticized in a recent on-air "rebuke" by 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley, who said the show was receiving new kinds of oversight amid the Trump presidency. The drama has unfolded as Redstone seeks FCC approval for a lucrative merger, and the Trump administration is suing Paramount Global for billions of dollars.

This week we revisit Redstone's backstory by re-airing a conversation with Rachel Abrams, a senior producer and reporter for The New York Times Presents, and the co-author with James B. Stewart of Unscripted:​​ The Epic Battle for a Media Empire and the Redstone Family Legacy .

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The Federal Communications Commission is currently investigating CBS for “intentional news distortion” for its editing of an interview with Kamala Harris. On this week’s On the Media, what the new chairman of the FCC has been up to, and what led a top CBS producer to quit. Plus, what a growing effort to rewrite the history of Watergate tells us about the American right.

[01:00] The Federal Communications Commission is currently investigating CBS for “intentional news distortion” for its editing of an interview with Kamala Harris. Host Brooke Gladstone talks with Max Tani , Semafor’s Media Editor and co-host of the podcast Mixed Signals , about Brendan Carr’s busy first three months as Chairman of the FCC and the impacts that these kinds of investigations could have on press freedoms.

[15:37] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Michael Koncewicz , political historian at New York University, about the fight over who gets to tell the story of Watergate and the years-long conservative movement to rehabilitate Richard Nixon’s image.

[29:26] Brooke sits down with Bryan Stevenson , public interest lawyer and founder of the Equal Justice Initiative , a human rights organization based in Montgomery, Alabama, to talk about the Trump Administration's war on museums, especially those that deal with our nation's history of racism.

Further reading:
How Nexstar dodged a Trump lawsuit , by Max Tani Shari Redstone kept tabs on ‘60 Minutes’ segments on Trump , by Max Tani The Alarming Effort To Rewrite the History of Watergate , by Michael Koncewicz The Worst Thing We’ve Ever Done , On the Media (2018)

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**EXTENDED VERSION**

Micah spoke to left-wing YouTuber, David Pakman for last week's show. This is the long version of that conversation.

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Conservative influencers have captured a massive audience on the internet, boasting nearly five times more followers than their progressive competitors. On this week’s On the Media, the hosts spend twelve hours immersed in right wing media and report back on what they saw. Plus, why Democrats are struggling to compete for audiences online.

[00:00] According to a new study from Media Matters for America , right-leaning shows dominate on social media. Hosts Brooke Gladstone and Micah Loewinger immerse themselves in right-wing podcasts and Rumble shows to hear how these creators are covering the news of the week.

[20:26] Brooke and Micah continue their journey into the right-wing online ecosystem, where they encounter how celebrity gossip can be a gateway to controversial political takes.

[32:41] Host Micah Loewinger chats with left-leaning news content creators Brian Tyler Cohen and David Pakman about why Democrats are struggling to reach younger and working class audiences, and how the rise of independent media has left progressives in the dust.

Further reading:
“The right dominates the online media ecosystem, seeping into sports, comedy, and other supposedly nonpolitical spaces ,” by Kayla Gogarty The Echo Machine: How Right-Wing Extremism Created a Post-Truth America by David Pakman

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Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, has been edged out of the headlines this past week, or so, by the administration’s current flirtation with a constitutional crisis. But the DOGE team is still busy. One project on the office's agenda, originally reported by WIRED late last month, is to rewrite the Social Security Administration's code base—in other words, the agency's computer programs, which handle millions of Americans’ personal and financial data. Brooke sits down with Clive Thompson, author of Coders: The Making of a New Tribe and the Remaking of the World , contributing writer to New York Times Magazine, and monthly columnist for Wired, to discuss the coding language under DOGE's microscope.

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The president’s on-again, off-again tariffs are wreaking havoc on the economy. On this week’s On the Media, how the press is struggling to keep up with covering the chaos. Plus, the CEO of Bluesky, an alternative to Twitter, shares her vision for a better internet.

[00:00] Host Micah Loewinger breaks down a wild week in the economy–why the press can’t keep up, and what we can learn from the rollercoaster of tariffs the Trump administration has implemented.

[00:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Jay Graber , the CEO of Bluesky, a competitor to Twitter/X that’s seen massive growth recently, about how Bluesky is structured in a fundamentally different way than other social media platforms, and why that might make it “billionaire-proof.” Plus, TechDirt founder and editor Mike Masnick documents the surprising role that his wonky paper played in the founding of Bluesky.

[00:00] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Douglas Rushkoff , whose many books probe the practice and philosophy of digital technology, about whether the apocalypse survival fantasies of tech billionaires are actually viable.

Further reading/listening:
Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Free Speech , by Mike Masnick Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires , by Douglas Rushkoff

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This week we’re bringing you an interview from our friends at the New Yorker Radio Hour. It's a conversation between host David Remnick and Democratic congressman Chris Murphy. Murphy is the junior senator from Connecticut and a vehement critic of leaders in his party who’ve taken a “business as usual” approach in dealing with the Trump administration. He opposed Chuck Schumer’s negotiation to pass the Republican budget and keep the government running and Murphy advocated for the democrats to skip the president’s joint address to congress en masse. He believes that his party has a winning formula if they stick to a populist anti-big-money agenda and he despairs that some in his party aren’t responding appropriately to what he sees as a crisis.

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The Trump administration has pulled funding for universities like Columbia and the University of Pennsylvania, and is threatening to withhold federal dollars from public schools with diversity, equity and inclusion programs. Harvard is also fighting to retain its funding. On this week’s On the Media, hear how the distinctly American idea of “diversity” has fallen out of favor—from higher education to the Supreme Court.

Reporter Ilya Marritz explains how the Trump administration is cracking down on universities by pulling funding. Plus. how the history of Harvard and the concept of “diversity” is the hidden subtext for the Trump administration’s education policies. In the past half-century, the academy (and the business world) embraced the idea of diversity as a social good–an idea developed at Harvard and endorsed by the Supreme Court, until the latter ended race-based affirmative action in 2023.

You can find earlier installments of Ilya’s reporting for The Harvard Plan , a collaboration with The Boston Globe, here .

Further reading/listening:
The Harvard Plan: Part One The Harvard Plan: Part Two University presidents aren’t capitulating to Trump, they say. They’re ‘adapting.’ by Hilary Burns Trump is threatening Harvard with funding cuts in the billions. But what does he want the university to do? by Hilary Burns

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According to the American Gaming Association, bets on March Madness basketball games could amount to as much as $3.1 billion. Almost every national sports outlet — ESPN, The Athletic, Bleacher Report, NBC, CBS, The Ringer — has partnered with a major sports betting company. Big money is changing hands. What does that mean for sports journalism? On the Media producer Rebecca Clark-Callender reports in a piece that first aired a year ago.

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When a journalist was accidentally added to a Signal chat that disclosed sensitive war plans, a controversy erupted about our national security. On this week’s On the Media, a look at how right-wing media is processing “Signalgate.” Plus, why Donald Trump is calling himself the crypto president.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Will Sommer , a senior reporter at the Bulwark, about the controversy surrounding “Signalgate,” or when The Atlantic’s Editor-in-Chief got added to a Signal group chat in which Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared detailed plans for bombing Houthi militants. They discuss the response from the Trump administration, and how rightwing media have been covering the scandal.

[17:24] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Jennifer Berkshire , co-author of The Education Wars , to explore President Trump’s plan to dismantle the Department of Education. Plus, why MAGA-backed school voucher programs have been met with fierce opposition from conservatives in red states.

[33:32] Host Micah Loewinger chats with Jacob Silverman , who covers tech, crypto, politics, and corruption, and co-authored Easy Money: Cryptocurrency, Casino Capitalism, and the Golden Age of Fraud , about President Trump’s seismic shift from criticizing crypto to naming himself the “Crypto President” and launching a $TRUMP memecoin.

Further reading:
“Cruel to Your School ,” by Jennifer Berkshire “The Strange Bedfellows Fighting School Vouchers ,” by Jennifer Berkshire “In Red States, Rural Voters Are Leading the Resistance to School Vouchers .” by Jennifer Berkshire “The President Took A $75 Million Bribe And We All Saw It ,” by Jacob Silverman Easy Money: Cryptocurrency, Casino Capitalism, and the Golden Age of Fraud by Jacob Silverman

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President Trump's appointee at the Environmental Protection Agency, Lee Zeldin, is making a lot of changes at the EPA. Including cutting 31 environmental rules regarding climate change pollution, electric vehicles, and power plants. Environmentalists say this is a gutting of regulation.

GOP lawmakers deem the EPA a job killer that does nothing but burden businesses with regulations. In the eyes of the American public, the environment ranks low on the list of priorities the government should address.

But flash back to the late 1960s, and it's a very different story. The environment was a bipartisan issue, and a Republican president created the EPA in 1970 in response to public pressure. So how did we get here? How did the environment go from universal concern to political battleground — with the EPA caught in the crossfire?

In a piece we first aired in 2017, Brooke considered the tumultuous history of the EPA, its evolving relationship with the public, and its uncertain future.

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The Trump administration has cut funding for Voice of America, the 80-year-old state media network. On this week’s On the Media, how pulling federal funds from VOA’s parent organization will imperil press freedom abroad. Plus, a Radio Free Europe journalist describes being detained for nine months in Russia until she was released alongside Evan Gershkovich.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Nicole Hemmer , political historian and co-host of the podcast “This Day .” They discuss the complicated history of Voice of America, which was founded in 1942 to counter Nazi propaganda. Plus, what the funding cuts to VOA and its parent organization tell us about how the Trump administration wants the U.S. to be perceived.

[15:57] Host Micah Loewinger sits down with Alsu Kurmasheva, press freedom advocate and veteran journalist of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty’s Tatar-Bashkir service, on what the network provides in countries lacking a free press and her own nine month detention in Russia. Plus, Bay Fang, president of Radio Free Asia, or RFA, on why authoritarians are celebrating Trump’s shutdown and how RFA’s closure will further diminish press freedom in Asia.

[33:35] Host Brooke Gladstone chats with Dorian Lynskey , cultural journalist and author of the recent book, Everything Must Go: The Stories We Tell About the End of the World , to examine our centuries-long obsession with telling end-of-the-world stories and what they reveal about our shifting fears through history. Plus, the evolution of the apocalyptic story, from the Book of Revelation to On the Beach to Station Eleven .

Further reading:

Everything Must Go: The Stories We Tell About the End of the World , by Dorian Lynksey

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This week's midweek podcast is a segment from Tuesdays episode of the Brian Lehrer show -- the legendary live call-in show that airs every weekday morning on our producing station, WNYC. The segment features Derek Thompson , staff writer at The Atlantic , author of the "Work in Progress" newsletter and host of the podcast "Plain English," and Ezra Klein , New York Times opinion columnist and host of their podcast, the "Ezra Klein Show." They are co-authors of Abundance, their new book that argues limits placed by past generations to protect jobs and the environment are preventing solving shortages.

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A Columbia University graduate who led protests last year has been detained by I.C.E. Even though he is a green card holder. On this week’s On the Media, hear why the case has conjured comparisons to the Red Scare of the forties and fifties. Plus, a look at the years-long campaign to dismantle press freedoms in the United States.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Corey Robin , distinguished professor of political science at Brooklyn College, on the arrest of Columbia University graduate student Mahmoud Khalil, and the parallels between now and the Red Scare of the forties and fifties.

[16:49] Brooke continues her conversation with Corey Robin , author of Fear: The History of a Political Idea . Robin explains how free speech crackdowns can change our political culture and tear at the fabric of the soul. Plus, how Humphrey Bogart betrayed the ideals of his most celebrated film.

[27:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with David Enrich , business investigations editor for The New York Times and author of the new book, Murder the Truth: Fear, the First Amendment, and a Secret Campaign to Protect the Powerful , on why a Supreme Court case that’s protected press freedoms for over half a century may now be in danger.

Further reading:
“Two Paths for Jewish Politics ,” by Corey Robin “Muskism and McCarthyism,” by Alan Dean, Charles Petersen, and Corey Robin “There Are No Good Reasons Not to Fight,” by Corey Robin “Can the Media’s Right to Pursue the Powerful Survive Trump’s Second Term? ” by David Enrich

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Last January the hedge fund Alden Global Capital sold The Baltimore Sun to David Smith, an executive at Sinclair Broadcast Group. Smith once told Trump that Sinclair was "here to deliver your message.” He is also known to support conservative causes like Moms for Liberty. It's been a year and with the release of new circulation numbers, its clear that whatever Smith is doing at the Sun, isn't working: Circulation is down, web traffic is down, journalists are leaving in the their droves.

After the sale went through last year, we spoke to Milton Kent , professor of practice in the School of Global Journalism and Communication at Morgan State University and Liz Bowie , who worked at The Sun for over 30 years before making the jump to the nonprofit, the Baltimore Banner.

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President Trump’s on-again, off-again tariff announcements sent stock markets plunging. On this week’s On the Media, how to make sense of the ever-changing news about the economy. Plus, the policy behind the ‘Make America Healthy Again’ rhetoric.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Gordon Hanson , an economist at Harvard University’s Kennedy School, about President Trump’s “America First” vision and the potential consequences of his chaotic tariff scheme.

[17:22] Micah sits down with Mark Blyth , a professor at Brown University, who explains the rhetoric about short term pain for long term gains, and what to make of the economy right now.

[35:07] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Helena Bottemiller Evich , Editor-in-Chief of Food Fix, to trace the complicated relationship between Republicans and food policy, from the Obama era to RFK Jr.’s “Make America Healthy Again” plan.

Further reading:
“Track One Car Part’s Journey Through the U.S., Canada and Mexico—Before Tariffs ” by By Vipal Monga Follow and Santiago Pérez “Washington’s New Trade Consensus (And What It Gets Wrong ),” by Gordon Hanson “Austerity Is Back – and More Dangerous Than Ever ,” by Mark Blyth “Republicans propel MAHA agenda with wave of state legislation ,” by Helena Bottemiller Evich

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Since Kash Patel was announced as the director for the FBI, pundits have warned of a return to the era of J. Edgar Hoover, who ran the bureau for 48 years. But according to Beverly Gage, the author of G-Man: J. Edgar Hoover and the Making of the American Century, under Patel, the FBI could be politicized in ways that even its notorious first director would have rejected. This week, Micah and Beverly discuss how Hoover established a playbook for weaponizing the FBI, and how Patel might go even further.

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Breaking from a century of tradition, the White House says it will seize control of the press pool covering the president. On this week’s On the Media, the new administration is prioritizing access for an array of far-right influencers and news outlets. Plus, what President Trump’s pivot toward Russia means for Ukraine after three years of war.

[00:00] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Anna Merlan , senior reporter at Mother Jones covering disinformation, technology, and extremism, to discuss the White House’s latest move to control the press pool covering the president.

[00:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Brandy Zadrozny , senior reporter at NBC News covering the internet, to discuss the rise of Dan Bongino, from right wing podcaster to Donald Trump’s new pick for Deputy Director of the FBI, and his history of anti-FBI rhetoric.

[00:00] Brooke Gladstone talks to Yaroslav Trofimov , chief foreign affairs correspondent for the Wall Street Journal and the author of No Country for Love , about the ultraconservative embrace of Putin’s Russia in the United States and how President Trump has spearheaded a paradigm shift in Republican foreign policy vis-à-vis Russia.

Further reading:
“Meet the New State Media, ” by Anna Merlan “Dan Bongino's yearslong history of FBI criticism and conspiracy theories, ” by Brandy Zadrozny “How a U.S. President Pivoted Toward Russia ,” by Yaroslav Trofimov “Russia Wants to Erase Ukraine’s Future—and Its Past ,” by Yaroslav Trofimov No Country for Love, by Yaroslav Trofimov Our Enemies Will Vanish: The Russian Invasion and Ukraine's War of Independence, by Yaroslav Trofimov

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Days before Russia invaded Ukraine 3 years ago, Russian president Vladimir Putin read an essay he’d written in 2021, “On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians,” wherein he claimed that Ukraine is a fake country that was invented by Lenin. This version of Russian history, which is full of inaccuracies amplified on Russian state media, has been used by the Russian state to justify their imperialist wars. But the myths in Russia's state-sponsored version of history are not new. In fact, Mikhail Zygar , a Russian investigative journalist, has traced the myths back at least as far as the middle ages. In Zygar's book, War and Punishment: Putin, Zelensky, and the Path to Russia's Invasion of Ukraine, he unravels a thousand years of fables that led to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine last year. In this conversation with Brooke which we first aired in 2023, Zygar recounts and contextualizes the history-fueled ingredients of today's Russian propaganda, and talks about his mission to write new works of Russian history that account for the country's colonial past, and present.

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Elon Musk’s claims of fraudulent government spending contain some wild inaccuracies. On this week's On the Media, how the mythos surrounding tech entrepreneurs paved the way for MAGA’s embrace of Silicon Valley leaders. Plus, meet the scholars and librarians who helped the Allies win World War II.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger looks at Elon Musk’s new role in the rightwing media ecosystem and how it’s driving policy. He talks to Will Oremus , tech reporter at The Washington Post, about DOGE and Elon Musk’s feuds with Reuters and Politico.

[16:42] Micah Loewinger speaks with Becca Lewis , a postdoctoral researcher at Stanford University, about how an influential group of conservative thinkers in Silicon Valley have long seen new technologies as tools for restoring older social orders

[32:41] Brooke Gladstone talks to Elyse Graham, professor of sociology at Stony Brook University and author of Book and Dagger: How Scholars and Librarians Became the Unlikely Spies of World War II . They discuss the role that academics, archivists, and librarians played in WWII intelligence gathering activities, and why the CIA invested in storytelling as a result.

Further reading:
“Musk accused Reuters of ‘social deception.’ The deception was his. ,” by Will Oremus “‘Headed for technofascism’: the rightwing roots of Silicon Valley ,” by Becca Lewis Book and Dagger: How Scholars and Librarians Became the Unlikely Spies of World War II , by Elyse Graham

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This week, the Senate will consider more of Trump’s Cabinet nominees, including his pick for FBI director, Kash Patel. For this midweek podcast, we're looking back at this conversation host Micah Loewinger had with Atlantic staff writer Elaina Plott Calabro, who charted Patel's rise to power, starting at the very beginning of his legal career. She explains how he came to loathe the media, and love Trump.

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The new administration is purging data from government websites and databases, such as the Department of Justice and the National Security Agency. On this week's On the Media, a historian shares the political playbook for rewriting the past in order to control the future. Plus, meet the different Christian groups vying for power at the White House.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger looks at the White House’s purge of data and records. He talks to Dara Kerr , a reporter at the Guardian, about President Trump’s attempt to ramp up deportations and how ICE is fudging its numbers. Micah also speaks with Molly White , author of the newsletter “Citation Needed ” and Wikipedia editor, about why Musk and others on the right are going after Wikipedia.

[13:24] Host Brooke Gladstone talks to Jason Stanley , professor of philosophy at Yale University and author of the book Erasing History: How Fascists Rewrite the Past to Control the Future , about the narrative the new administration is constructing.

[31:46] Brooke Gladstone hears from Matthew D. Taylor , author of The Violent Take It by Force: The Christian Movement That Is Threatening Our Democracy . They discuss the three Christian factions jostling for power in the new administration: the independent Charismatics like Trump’s faith adviser Paula White-Cain, the trad Catholics (represented by J.D. Vance), and the theobros (epitomized by Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth).

Further reading:
“US immigration is creating a mirage of mass deportations on Google search ,” by Dara Kerr “Elon Musk and the right’s war on Wikipedia ,” by Molly White Erasing History: How Fascists Rewrite the Past to Control the Future , by Jason Stanley The second coming of Donald J. Trump ,” by Matthew D. Taylor

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Micah joins Anna Sale on Death, Sex and Money to revisit their 2023 conversation with Tasha Adams, ex-wife of Stewart Rhodes the founder of the Oath Keepers. Rhodes was convicted of seditious conspiracy for his role in the January 6th insurrection –– prosecutors argued that members of the Oath Keepers used force to block the results of the election. He was sentenced to 18 years in prison.

Now he's out.

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Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency has accessed sensitive information at the treasury and gutted the United States Agency for International Development. On this week’s On the Media, how a tech magazine scooped mainstream outlets with its reporting on the DOGE taskforce. Plus, at the Department of Justice, data wipes and mass firings target records of January 6.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger sits down with Vittoria Elliott , reporter for WIRED covering platforms and power. This week WIRED has been covering Elon Musk’s rampage through the federal agencies, and has been the first to report on several key stories

[12:51] Micah speaks with Ryan J. Reilly , who covers the Justice Department and federal law enforcement for NBC News, about President Donald Trump’s campaign of retribution against those in the Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigation who he feels unfairly targeted him and his followers.

[26:09] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Representative Don Beyer of Virginia to talk about Democrats' approach as President Trump challenges Congress’ power. Brooke also speaks with Ezra Levin , co-founder and co-executive director of the nonprofit Indivisible, about Democrats’ PR strategies, and the party’s resistance to using the Mitch McConnell playbook to push back against the G.O.P.

Further reading:
“The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Government Takeover ,” By Vittoria Elliott “The US Treasury Claimed DOGE Technologist Didn’t Have ‘Write Access’ When He Actually Did ,” By Vittoria Elliott, Leah Feiger, Tim Marchman “Trump administration forces out multiple senior FBI officials and January 6 prosecutors ,” By Ken Dilanian, Tom Winter, Ryan J. Reilly and Michael Kosnar Sedition Hunters: How January 6th Broke the Justice System , By Ryan Reilly “Here's How Democrats Can Stop Trump and Musk ,”by Ezra Levin and Leah Greenberg

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According to the Financial Times, 225 out of Musk’s 616 tweets and retweets in the first week of January were about UK politics. Meanwhile, Musk has praised the prime minister of Italy, far-right politician Giorgia Meloni, describing her as “even more beautiful on the inside than on the outside.” At a time when his company SpaceX is reportedly in talks for a billion dollar contract with the Italian government. And then there’s his entrance into the German political scene; showing up to AFD rallies and more. Micah spoke to Bojan Pancevski, chief European political correspondent at The Wall Street Journal, about Elon Musk’s political profile in Germany, and its consequences.

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President Donald Trump has signed dozens of executive orders since returning to office. On this week’s On the Media, how the directives are butting heads with existing laws. Plus, what the DeepSeek saga reveals about American A.I.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Dahlia Lithwick , a senior editor at Slate and host of the podcast Amicus , to discuss Donald Trump’s attempt to freeze billions of dollars in federal funding, the legality of the president’s litany of executive orders, and how political paralysis is the point.

[21:00] Brooke speaks with Ed Zitron , host of the Better Offline podcast and author of the newsletter Where’s Your Ed At on how the release of a new Chinese AI chatbot model, DeepSeek-R1, threatens to burst the American A.I. bubble, and how tech moguls have gotten away with overhyping A.I. for years.

[38:14] Brooke continues the conversation with Ed Zitron , peeling back the facade to explore what generative A.I. can actually do.

Further reading:
“How Will the Supreme Court Respond to Trump’s Budget-Freeze Power Grab? ” by Dahlia Lithwick “Trump’s First Flurry of Executive Orders Plagued by a Surprising Problem ,” by Dahlia Lithwick and Mark Joseph Stern “Deep Impact ,” by Ed Zitron “Godot Isn't Making it ,” by Ed Zitron “Bubble Trouble ,” by Ed Zitron

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When OpenAI launched ChatGPT in November 2022, all the big tech firms were clamoring to make their own versions of the “intelligent” chatbot. Billions of dollars have been thrown into the technology – training the models, creating more advanced computer chips, building data centers. But last week, a Chinese artificial intelligence company called DeepSeek released a generative AI model that is not only competitive with the latest version of OpenAI’s model, but it was done cheaper, in less time, and with less advanced hardware. For this midweek podcast extra, host Brooke Gladstone sat down with Ed Zitron , host of the Better Offline podcast and writer of the newsletter “Where’s your Ed at ,” to talk about how this new Chinese AI model threatens to burst the American tech AI bubble.

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President Donald Trump’s second term began with a flurry of executive orders and press. On this week’s On the Media, how to navigate the onslaught of news. Plus, executives at major outlets are telling reporters to tone down coverage of the new administration. And, what we can learn about Trump by looking at the legacy of his favorite president, William McKinley.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone on the flood of executive orders emerging from President Trump’s return to the Oval Office, and how the chaos is the point. Plus, host Micah Loewinger explores the role of fear in stymying action and understanding.

[18:55] Micah Loewinger speaks with Oliver Darcy , author of the newsletter Status and former CNN media reporter, on how media execs are instructing reporters to tone down their Trump coverage, and how current political journalism compares to that of four years ago.

[34:21] Brooke Gladstone speaks with Chris Lehmann , the DC Bureau chief for The Nation and a contributing editor at The Baffler, on what we can learn from President Donald Trump's role model, President William McKinley.

Further reading:
“What ‘Mass Deportation’ Actually Means ,” by Dara Lind “The Invasion of the Body Snatchers ,” by Oliver Darcy “Donald Trump Is Building a Bridge to 1896 ,” by Chris Lehmann

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We are living in history all of the time. Nevertheless, there are some times that seem more historical than usual. Like now, when academics and artists and even librarians have come under attack. We mention this particular sign of these times because of a new, delightful book by historian Elyse Graham, professor of Sociology at Stony Brook University called “Book and Dagger - How Scholars and Librarians Became the Unlikely Spies of World War Two." The book is a breezy and enthralling read, but assiduously footnoted for those who might question her very compelling argument that without this unheralded corp of peculiar recruits, that war might very well have been lost.

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The Supreme Court has upheld a ban on TikTok. On this week’s On the Media, hear how the ruling could affect other media companies, and where TikTokers are going next. Plus, California’s latest wildfires are devastating, but they’re not unprecedented.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger sits down with David Cole , professor of law and public policy at Georgetown University, and former National Legal Director of the American Civil Liberties Union, to discuss what the Supreme Court TikTok ban could mean for all kinds of media companies.

[16:39] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Ryan Broderick , tech journalist, host of the podcast Panic World, and author of the newsletter “Garbage Day,” on the great TikTok migration to RedNote, and what the platform’s potential ban means for the future of the Internet.

[35:08] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Rebecca Solnit , author of A Paradise Built in Hell: The Extraordinary Communities That Arise in Disaster, on what she, a California native, has found shocking but not surprising about the Los Angeles fires.

Further reading:
“Free Speech for TikTok? ,” by David Cole “America's youth longs for Chinese e-commerce, ” by Ryan Broderick “TikTok doesn't need America ,” by Ryan Broderick “The chronicle of a fire foretold ,” by Rebecca Solnit A Paradise Built in Hell: The Extraordinary Communities That Arise in Disaster by Rebecca Solnit

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There have been hints dropped that the incoming administration intends to shake up the White House briefing room to potentially allow in more podcasters and outlets friendly to Trump. Whether or not it happens, the threats set the tone for another period of bad relations with the press corps. Time Magazine’s Olivia Waxman told Brooke back in 2017 that it was ever thus.

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NPR and PBS stations are bracing for war with the incoming Trump administration. On this week’s On the Media, the long history of efforts to save—and snuff out—public broadcasting. Plus, the role of public radio across the country, from keeping local governments in check to providing life-saving information during times of crisis.

[01:00] Hosts Brooke Gladstone and Micah Loewinger explore the history of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and break down the funding with Karen Everhart , managing editor of Current.

[06:59] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts, a member of the Subcommittee on Communications, Media, and Broadband, which oversees the Corporation For Public Broadcasting, on his decades-long fight with Republican lawmakers to keep NPR and PBS alive.

[13:44] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Mike Gonzalez , a senior fellow at The Heritage Foundation, who authored a part of the foundation’s Project 2025 chapter on ending CPB funding.

[34:26] Hosts Brooke Gladstone and Micah Loewinger on how public radio stations across the country work to hold local governments accountable, ft: Scott Franz of KUNC in Colorado, Matt Katz formerly of WNYC, and Lindsey Smith of Michigan Public.

[00:00] Host Micah Loewinger takes a deep dive into the role of public radio during crises, ft: Tom Michael , founder of Marfa Public Radio and Laura Lee , news director for Blue Ridge Public Radio.

[00:00] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Sage Smiley , news director at KYUK in Bethel, Alaska, to talk about the station’s life-saving coverage of the Kuskokwim Ice Road in southwestern Alaska, and what the region would lose without public radio.

Further reading:
“End of CPB funding would affect stations of all sizes ,” by Adam Ragusea “Is there any justification for continuing to ask taxpayers to fund NPR and PBS? ” by Mike Gonzalez “Should New Jersey Democratic Officials Keep Jailing Immigrants for ICE? ” by Matt Katz “A secret ballot system at Colorado’s statehouse is quietly killing bills and raising transparency concerns ,” by Scott Franz “Not Safe to Drink ," a special radio series by Michigan Public “The Rock House Fire: 5 Years Later ,” by Tom Michael

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In the aftermath of the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol in January 2021, politicians, pundits, and the American public condemned the violence—while many considered Donald Trump responsible for what had happened. In a few weeks, Trump will be sworn in for a second term at the very same place rioters overran four years ago. For this midweek podcast extra, host Micah Loewinger sat down with Dan Barry, senior writer at The New York Times and co-author of the recent article, “‘A Day of Love’: How Trump Inverted the Violent History of Jan. 6 ,” to talk about how Trump and his allies diligently worked to rewrite the American memory of that day, and why they were so successful.

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The complete story of American imperialism is missing from our history books. On this week’s On the Media, how the United States worked to capture territory and expand power, while preaching democracy and freedom.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with historian Daniel Immerwahr, on the hidden history of the United States empire. For Americans, empire often means economic and military power abroad, or CIA coups in Central America–not British-style imperialism. But the American empire was — and in some ways continues to be — a lot closer than most people realize. Immerwahr explains the role of guano — bird poop — in launching America's overseas empire, and the legal, political and social clashes that ensued.

[17:57] Host Brooke Gladstone continues her conversation with historian Daniel Immerwahr, exploring why, at the dawn of the last century, the arguments over imperialism didn’t end with poets like Rudyard Kipling and writers like Mark Twain. How should the adolescent U.S., big-headed about its democratic values, grapple with capturing territory? Immerwahr explains how this vital debate blazed across America’s consciousness like a comet, then vanished just as quickly.

[34:47] Host Brooke Gladstone and historian Daniel Immerwahr conclude their conversation, discussing how, after World War II, global anti-colonial sentiment (combined with less dependence on natural resources) led to a shrinking of America's physical empire. But the American empire didn't disappear — it merely changed form.

This originally aired in our April 5, 2019 program, “ Empire State of Mind. ”

Further reading/listening/watching:
How To Hide An Empire: A History of the Greater United States, by Daniel Immerwahr

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With Trump’s imminent return to the White House, we’ve decided to take stock of how political and journalistic norms have evolved over the years. For this week’s midweek podcast, we’re sharing an episode from Radiolab that aired in October, on the whirlwind history of Gary Hart, a young charismatic Democrat who in 1987 was poised to win his party’s nomination and possibly the presidency – until a bombshell sex scandal derailed it all. Brooke Gladstone and Radiolab co-host Latif Nasser discuss that history, and why sex scandals don’t really matter anymore.

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It’s been almost a year since the historic music outlet Pitchfork shrank considerably. On this week’s On the Media, why the distinctive voices in music journalism are worth saving. Plus, how AI music generators could upend the industry.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger, speaks with Ann Powers , critic and correspondent for NPR Music, on Condé Nast's acquisition of the influential music publication Pitchfork, and what this means for the future of music journalism.

[12:45] Host Micah Loewinger speaks to Kyle Chayka , staff writer at The New Yorker, about how algorithms are changing how people discover and listen to music – and all too often, not for the better.

[28:39] Former OTM producer, and current composer and sound designer, Mark Henry Phillips , on how AI music generators could fundamentally upend the industry for good.

Further reading:
“With Pitchfork in peril, a word on the purpose of music journalism ,” by Ann Powers "Why I Finally Quit Spotify ," by Kyle Chayka
A segment from this show originally aired on our January 19, 2024 program, Trouble at The Baltimore Sun, and the End of an Era for Pitchfork.

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For the new documentary, The Bibi Files , director Alexis Bloom uses hundreds of hours of leaked, previously unseen interrogation footage of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, his wife Sara, his son Yair, his staff and inner circle – to trace how the corruption charges against Netanyahu and Israel’s war on Gaza have converged. On this week’s midweek podcast, we re-air a conversation between Brooke Gladstone and Israeli journalist Raviv Drucker , one of the main guides through The Bibi Files, to discuss his role in the documentary and how Netanyahu’s corruption cases act as the “engine” that drives the wider conflict in the region.

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Donald Trump has a big plan to remake American universities. On this week’s On the Media, hear how the distinctly American idea of “diversity” has fallen out of favor—from higher education to the Supreme Court.

Reporter Ilya Marritz explains how the deep history of Harvard and the concept of “diversity” is the hidden subtext for much of the recent strife. In the past half-century, the academy (and the business world) embraced the idea of diversity as a social good–an idea developed at Harvard and endorsed by the Supreme Court, until the latter ended race-based affirmative action in 2023. This episode also looks at what’s in store for universities as the incoming Trump-Vance administration promises to pressure them to change curricula.

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This year was earth’s hottest on record, and the Atlantic storm season brought with it five major hurricanes. And yet in December, the Pew Research Center found that only some 20 percent of Americans expect to make major sacrifices in their lifetime due to the climate crisis. According to writer Nathaniel Rich, when it comes to planning for a fraught future, New Orleans sets an example the rest of the country would be wise to follow.

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The suspected killer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO has been crowned a hero by many on social media. On this week’s On the Media, what the fandom reveals, and what the coverage of it has missed. Plus, tune in to part two of The Harvard Plan . Hear how plagiarism allegations at the university exploded into a toxic discourse about DEI and “diversity hires.”

[01:00] Hosts Brooke Gladstone and Micah Loewinger examine how the suspected killer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO became an internet sensation, what the spectacle itself reveals, and the gulf between the reactions on TikTok and in mainstream media.

[15:29] Reporter Ilya Marritz , in part two of this collaboration with WNYC’s On The Media, Harvard’s first Black president Claudine Gay is accused of academic plagiarism, just days after giving testimony to Congress. The drip-drip of new allegations keeps the story in the headlines. It also reinforces critics’ allegation that Gay is a “diversity hire,” unworthy of the job. We hear from two of the writers who broke that news, and from a defender of Harvard’s diversity efforts.

Check out our collaboration with the Boston Globe here .

Further reading/listening/watching:
“Luigi Mangione’s Full Story Isn’t Online ,” by John Herrman "Beware, fellow plutocrats, the pitchforks are coming ," Ted Talk by Nick Hanauer

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Last week, the website for Enron – yes, that Enron – came back online. And on Monday the new CEO, Connor Gaydos, introduced himself, with what the fine print called "First Amendment protected parody." And it so happens that Gaydos is a source of another satirical piece of news… "Birds Aren't Real." On this week's midweek podcast, we re-air a conversation between Brooke Gladstone and writer Ian Beacock , about how the fake conspiracy theory gained traction, and what it reveals about our culture.

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Many of Donald Trump’s cabinet picks are emulating online influencers in their efforts to sell products and promote themselves. On this week’s On the Media, hear about the phenomenon academics are calling “influencer creep.” Plus, a look at the short, troubled tenure of Harvard’s 30th president, Claudine Gay, and the media firestorm that ensued.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Drew Harwell , technology reporter at The Washington Post, and Elaina Plott Calabro , staff writer at The Atlantic, on how, and why, Donald Trump is filling his cabinet with influencers.

[14:27] Reporter Ilya Marritz , in part one of our collaboration with the Boston Globe, dives into Claudine Gay's groundbreaking tenure as Harvard's first Black president. Gay’s appointment began with high hopes in September 2023, but soon devolved into a proxy battleground for American cultural wars — spurring escalating disputes over anti-Semitism and free speech, tarnishing her presidency as a symbol of diversity's failings. This series slows down the whipsaw chain of events to bring listeners direct eyewitness accounts of what happened, from professors, wealthy donors, and spiritual leaders.

Further reading/listening/watching:
“Trump and allies blur the lines between politician and influencer ,” by Drew Harwell “The Man Who Will Do Anything for Trump ,” by Elaina Plott Calabro

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Over the weekend, president-elect Donald Trump nominated a little-known, largely inexperienced civil servant to an enormous role in his upcoming administration – Kash Patel as FBI director.

Firing current FBI director Christopher Wray, who has 2 years left in his 10 year term, would itself be an alarming break in norms. Atlantic staff writer Elaina Plott Calabro , profiled Kash Patel in August, chartint his rise to power, starting at the very beginning of his legal career. She explains how he came to loathe the media, and love Trump.

Further reading:

"The Man Who Will Do Anything For Trump ," by Elaina Plott Calabro

"What the FBI Has Done, and Kash Patel Could Do ," by Jon Allsop

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How did the right get their vice grip of the airwaves, all the while arguing that they were being censored? On this week’s On the Media, a look at the early history of American radio, and why, in the post-war era, the U.S. government encouraged more diverse viewpoints on the airwaves — until it didn’t. Plus, the technological and legal changes that led to the popularity of conservative talk radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh.

[00:10] Reporter Katie Thornton explains how radio programming shifted from the 1930s to the 1960s, and how the FCC attempted to prevent propaganda on the airwaves. Plus, what legal challenges conservative radio faced during the Civil Rights Era.

[10:07] Reporter Katie Thornton takes a deeper look at The 700 Club , a Christian television news show that helped give rise to a network of conservative Christian radio stations.

[22:51] Reporter Katie Thornton describes how the introduction of high-quality FM radio led AM radio to focus on talk radio, and the factors that made way for Rush Limbaugh to become the breakout star of conservative talk shows.

Further reading/listening/watching:
Messengers of the Right: Conservative Media and the Transformation of American Politics by Nicole Hemmer News For All The People: The Epic Story of Race and the American Media , by Joseph Torres and Juan González Shadow Network Media, Money, and the Secret Hub of the Radical Right , by Anne Nelson Talk Radio’s America: How an Industry Took Over a Political Party That Took Over the United States , by Brian Rosenwald

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Our latest episode featured Micah's interview with Hank Green, a very popular YouTuber and science communicator. We got a lot of nice feedback about the conversation, and there were some interesting exchanges that we couldn’t fit in the radio version. So we’re bringing you a longer edit here. Hank describes how content creators depend on legacy media; his inspiration for making videos in 2007; and how OTM can reach a bigger audience.

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A recent report from the Pew Research Center finds that 1 in 5 Americans get their news from influencers. On this week’s On the Media, YouTuber and science communicator Hank Green explains how he makes the truth go viral. Plus, hear how tech billionaires plan to escape the end of the world.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Renée DiResta, researcher studying online manipulation and professor at Georgetown University, about what the data tells us about how news consumption is changing. Plus, how news influencers are rewriting the power dynamics of media.

[17:04] Host Micah Loewinger interviews science communicator, YouTuber, and entrepreneur Hank Green about how he makes the truth go viral, how he connects with his audience of many millions, and how he chooses what topics to cover.

[33:44] Host Brooke Gladstone talks with Douglas Rushkoff , whose many books probe the practice and philosophy of digital technology, about whether the apocalypse survival fantasies of tech billionaires are actually viable.

Further reading/listening/watching:
Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies Into Reality , by Renée DiResta “Everyone Was Wrong About Avocados - Including Us ,” by SciShow “Why do Cars Suddenly Look Like Putty?? ” by Hank Green Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires , by Douglas Rushkoff

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In the run up to the election Donald Trump was doggedly pursuing the votes of young men. He courted them, as we described on the show, through interviews with influencers like Joe Rogan and Adin Ross, and Logan Paul. These personalities are part of the so-called manosphere, where anti-feminist, often right-wing politics are the norm. While reporting on this corner of the internet, host Micah Loewinger has been thinking a lot about a conversation he had with Richard Reeves, author of the book of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male is Struggling, Why It Matters and What to Do About It . When Micah spoke to him last year, he said that the mainstream political discourse around men is fundamentally broken.

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Many of Donald J. Trump’s cabinet picks have something in common: a very close relationship with Fox News. On this week’s On the Media, hear about the revolving door from the conservative network to the White House. Plus, election conspiracy theories from Kamala Harris supporters go viral. And a satirical news site buys up Alex Jones’ Infowars.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Matt Gertz , senior fellow at Media Matters, about the re-opened revolving door between conservative media and the Trump administration.

[11:52] Host Micah Loewinger sits down with Anna Merlan, senior reporter at Mother Jones, to discuss the flurry of apparent Democratic voters questioning election results on social media, and why, without backing from public officials, “BlueAnon” is likely a nonstarter.

[20:05] Host Brooke Gladstone chats with Bill Adair , founder of PolitiFact and author of the new book Beyond the Big Lie , about the history of fact-checking and why the field – in desperate need of resources and reinforcements – is struggling to break through in our information ecosystem.

[33:23] Host Micah Loewinger talks with Matt Pearce , former staff writer at the LA Times, and president of Media Guild of the West, about the media’s audience problem.

[43:00] Host Brooke Gladstone calls up Ben Collins , CEO of The Onion , because The Onion bought Alex Jones’ Infowars. Need we say more.

Further reading / listening:
“A comprehensive review of the revolving door between Fox and the second Trump administration," by Matt Gertz “Election Conspiracy Theories Are For Everyone,” by Anna Merlan Beyond the Big Lie: The Epidemic of Political Lying, Why Republicans Do It More, and How It Could Burn Down Our Democracy , by Bill Adair “Lessons on media policy at the slaughter-bench of history,” by Matt Pearce “Here’s Why I Decided To Buy ‘InfoWars',” by Bryce P. Tetraeder, Global Tetrahedron fictitious CEO

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Many media outlets were prepared for conspiracy theories and lies to spread after the election. But many thought that it would be coming from Donald Trump or his supporters spreading the “Big Lie.” But since Donald Trump’s win, some social media posts from Kamala Harris supporters and people on the left have gone viral questioning the outcome of the election.

Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Anna Merlan , senior reporter at Mother Jones covering disinformation, technology, and extremism, about the viral post-election delusions and how conspiratorial thinking can be expected from any losing party.

Further reading:

“Election Conspiracy Theories Are for Everyone ,” by Anna Merlan

“The 200-Year History of Using Voter Fraud Fears to Block Access to the Ballot ,” by Pema Levy

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Since Donald J. Trump won the election, journalists have been retreading his path to victory, and discussing how the press should cover his next presidency. On this week’s On the Media, hear how a group of powerful podcasters helped boost Trump to his second term. Plus, an exiled Russian journalist shares rules for surviving an autocracy.

[01:00] Hosts Brooke Gladstone and Micah Loewinger and Executive Producer Katya Rogers discuss the day after the election. We also hear from OTM listeners about how they’re feeling post-election, and what they want to see covered in the next Trump presidency.

[14:13] Host Micah Loewinger muses on the influence of Joe Rogan in this election, and looks at how Rogan, who previously said he held progressive views, ended up endorsing Trump.

[28:13] Host Brooke Gladstone interviews M. Gessen , opinion columnist at The New York Times, about their rules for surviving autocracy. They discuss the fallacy of Americans “voting against their interests”; what the path of Viktor Orbán suggests about Trump’s next steps; and how to keep the dream of democracy alive.

Further reading / listening:
“Where Does This Leave Democrats? ” by Ezra Klein “Joe Rogan’s Galaxy Brain ,” by Justin Peters “Is the Gen Z bro media diet to blame? ” by Rebecca Jennings “Autocracy: Rules for Survival ,” by M. Gessen Surviving Autocracy , by M. Gessen

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As the election approaches, conspiracy theories have flooded social media. On this week’s On the Media, hear why journalists are struggling to keep up with disinformation, on and offline. Plus, what does The Washington Post’s non-endorsement really mean? And, a look at the media coverage of the Uncommitted movement.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Brandy Zadrozny , senior reporter at NBC, about the growing swirl of disinformation around the election—and the toll it’s taking.

[14:26] Host Brooke Gladstone takes a close look at the implications of The Washington Post’s decision to skip a presidential endorsement, and what it means to “obey in advance.”

[24:07] Host Micah Loewinger interviews democratic strategist Waleed Shahid , a co-founder of the Uncommitted Movement, about how the press has covered Arab and Muslim voters.

[37:34] Host Brooke Gladstone talks with historian Ira Chinoy , author of Predicting the Winner: The Untold Story of Election Night 1952 and the Dawn of Computer Forecasting , about how newspapers in the 1800s, radio stations in the 1920s, and television in the 1950s helped to make election night the spectacle it is today.

Further reading:
“Extremists inspired by conspiracy theories pose major threat to 2024 elections, U.S. intelligence warns ,” by Brandy Zadrozny "On anticipatory obedience and the media," by Ian Bassin and Maximillian Potter Predicting the Winner: The Untold Story of Election Night 1952 and the Dawn of Computer Forecasting, by Ira Chinoy

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Donald Trump is being called a fascist – by his former appointees and his opponent Kamala Harris.

On Sunday, in a rally at Madison Square Garden in New York, Trump and his allies traded in crude and racist insults, amplifying the nationalistic rhetoric his camp has become known for. The event drew stark comparisons to another gathering at the Garden–a 1939 "Pro-American Rally ," put on by the German-American Bund, a pro-Nazi group, with 20,000 of its members in attendance.

The MAGA rally, for some, was the tipping point for calling Donald Trump a fascist. For others, it was simply another piece of evidence placed atop an already very tall stack.

Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Jason Stanley , a professor of philosophy at Yale University and author of Erasing History: How Fascists Rewrite the Past to Control the Future . He first warned about Trump’s fascist rhetoric in 2018, and explains why it's more important than ever to call it by its name.

A portion of this interview originally aired in our October 25, 2024, program, Fascism, Fear and the Science Behind Horror Films.

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Donald Trump is being called a fascist – by his former appointees, as well as by his opponent Kamala Harris. On this week’s On the Media, a historian of fascism explains why he sounded the alarm back in 2018. Plus, the science behind why horror films make your skin crawl.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Jason Stanley , a professor of Philosophy at Yale University and who has written several books on fascism. He first warned about Trump’s fascist rhetoric in 2018, and explains why it's more important than ever to call it by its name.

[20:05] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with science writer Nina Nesseth to explore how horror filmmakers make our skin crawl, the anatomy of a jump scare, and why all screams aren’t created equal. Her book Nightmare Fuel: The Science of Horror Films delves into question – why do we crave being scared senseless in the movie theater?

[32:50] OTM producer Rebecca Clark-Callender dives into the history of Black horror to see what it is and who it's for, ft: Robin R. Means Coleman , professor of Media Studies and of African American and African Studies at the University of Virginia and co-author of The Black Guy Dies First: Black Horror Cinema from Fodder to Oscar ; Tananarive Due , author, screenwriter, and lecturer on Afrofuturism and Black Horror at University of California, Los Angeles; Rusty Cundieff , writer and director of Tales from the Hood (1995); and Betty Gabriel, actor widely known for her acclaimed performance as "Georgina" in Jordan Peele's blockbuster Get Out (2017).

Further reading:
Erasing History: How Fascists Rewrite the Past to Control the Future , by Jason Stanley How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them , by Jason Stanley Nightmare Fuel: The Science of Horror Films by Nina Nesseth Horror Noire: A History of Black American Horror from the 1890s to Present by Robin R. Means Coleman

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For the last few years, patriotism has been stuck in the wheelhouse of the GOP. A Gallup poll from June shows that 60% of Republicans — compared to 29% of Democrats — express extreme pride in being American. Donald Trump wraps himself in flags at each rally, walking out to God Bless America. But recently, Democrats have been taking it back, little by little. At a rally in Philadelphia, the crowd erupted into chants of, “USA! USA! USA!” and at the DNC, former Republican representative Adam Kinzinger proclaimed, “The Democrats are as patriotic as us.” That same night, Kamala Harris claimed that Americans all have the “fundamental freedom” to clean air and water, and the right to an environment free from the pollutants that “drive the climate crisis.”

A group of researchers at New York University, led by Katherine Mason, are investigating this unlikely pairing – flag-waving, steak grilling, good ol’ American patriotism and climate change. They released a new study measuring the effectiveness of this combination in changing stubborn minds. This week, host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Katherine Mason to discuss the effectiveness of combining patriotism with climate change, and how to harness peoples’ inherent psychological need for stability to promote social change.

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This election is set to be the most expensive ever. On this week’s On the Media, what does a billion dollars in campaign funds actually buy? Plus, Democrats condemned dark money for years. Now they embrace it.

[01:00] Hosts Brooke Gladstone and Micah Loewinger explore why Donald Trump came to be so reliant on his billionaire donors. Plus, Andrew Perez of Rolling Stone details Trump’s history of promising his benefactors big favors. And Bloomberg reporter Annie Massa breaks down the relationship between Trump and megadonor Jeff Yass.

[09:48] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Kenneth Vogel , who covers money, influence, and politics at the New York Times, about the rise of the dark money political infrastructure following the 2010 Supreme Court decision Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission.

[24:53] Host Micah Loewinger sits down with Helen Santoro , money and politics reporter at The Lever, about Kamala Harris’ robust political history as a proponent of dark money reform, and her recent about-face.

[38:16] Host Brooke Gladstone talks with Steven Sprick Schuster , professor of economics at Middle Tennessee State University, to discuss if raising more money actually helps you win an election.

Further reading / listening:
“Republicans Tell Trump That Elon Musk’s Super PAC Is Blowing It ,” by Asawin Suebsaeng, Miles Klee, and Andrew Perez “How Jeff Yass Became One of the Most Influential Billionaires in the 2024 Election ,” by Annie Massa “Democrats Decried Dark Money. Then They Won With It in 2020 ,” by Kenneth Vogel and Shane Goldmacher “Harris’ Turn To The Dark (Money) Side ,” by Helen Santoro “Does Campaign Spending Affect Election Outcomes? New Evidence from Transaction-Level Disbursement Data ,” by Steven Sprick Schuster

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The new film “The Apprentice ,” takes us back to New York in the 1970s, to when Donald Trump was just starting to make a name for himself, and to his introduction to Roy Cohn, the ruthless attorney and political fixer. The fictionalized depiction of real events, shows how Cohn molded Trump into his protégé, imparting his political lessons on how to wield political power, manipulate the media, and bend the truth.

The film was directed by Ali Abbasi and written and executive produced by Gabriel Sherman, with notable actors such as Jeremy Strong playing Roy Cohn, Sebastian Stan as Donald Trump, and Maria Bakalova as Trump’s first wife, Ivana.

The team faced a complicated path to bringing “The Apprentice” to theater screens – struggling with procuring financing, searching for a distributor in the United States, and also facing legal threats from the Trump team – but it finally opened in theaters in the United States on October 11th.

On Monday, Trump wrote on Truth Social about the film: “It’s a cheap, defamatory, and politically disgusting hatchet job, put out right before the 2024 Presidential Election, to try and hurt the Greatest Political Movement in the History of our Country…”

Host Brooke Gladstone sat down with screenwriter and executive producer of the film, Gabriel Sherman , on Friday, October 11th.

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When Fox News launched in 1996, critics joked about its incompetence. But just a few years later, the network proved itself to be a political force. On this week’s On the Media, hear how Fox News rose to power during the election of 2000.

Hosts Brooke Gladstone and Micah Loewinger introduce Slow Burn’s host Josh Levin . Levin spoke with the hosts, reporters, and producers who built Fox News, many who’ve never spoken publicly before. And you’ll hear from Fox’s victims, who are still coming to terms with how the channel upended their lives.

Further reading / listening:
Slow Burn: The Rise of Fox News - SEASON 10 Crazy Like a FOX: The Inside Story of How Fox News Beat CNN , by Scott. Collins Murdoch’s World: The Last of the Old Media Empires , by David Folkenflik How to Steal an Election: The Inside Story of How George Bush’s Brother and FOX Network Miscalled the 2000 Election and Changed the Course of History , by David W. Moore The Loudest Voice in the Room: How the Brilliant, Bombastic Roger Ailes Built Fox News-and Divided a Country, by Gabriel Sherman
A portion of this episode originally aired on our September 25, 2024 podcast, OTM Presents Ep. 1 of Slow Burn's The Rise of Fox News: We Report. You Can Suck It

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It’s been less than two weeks since Hurricane Helene made landfall in Florida, tearing through the southeast United States. And already, Hurricane Milton is looming as a deadly sequel. With states still reeling from the physical and emotional toll of the first storm, more trouble has been brewing online. This week on our podcast extra, host Micah Loewinger sits down with Will Oremus , technology reporter for The Washington Post, to talk about how he and his colleagues have been documenting the spread of false information on social media following the disaster.

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Israel has launched a ground invasion into Lebanon. On this week’s On the Media, hear from a reporter in Beirut on the state of the press as the country braces for more violence. Plus, the state of book censorship in America.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Nada Homsi , correspondent at The National’s Beirut bureau, on what the press looks like in Lebanon as Israel launches a ground invasion into the country.

[14:23] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Raviv Drucker , an Israeli journalist, to hear about his role in the unreleased documentary, The Bibi Files , directed by Alexis Bloom. The film uses never-before-seen leaked interrogation footage of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his inner circle to lay out his corruption case.

[31:05] Host Brooke Gladstone talks with Kelly Jensen , an editor at the online publication Book Riot, about how book censorship has shifted over the past year to a government affair – with new laws and regulations passed in Idaho, Utah, and South Carolina among other states.

[39:36] Host Brooke Gladstone interviews Peter Parnell and Justin Richardson, whose children’s picture book, And Tango Makes Three, is among the long list of banned titles across the country. Hear why they’re suing in Florida to make their book — and others — accessible again.

Further reading:
“Hezbollah’s dominance raises questions about Lebanon’s army role in Israel conflict ,” by Nada Homsi "It’s Still Censorship, Even If It’s Not a Book Ban, " by Kelly Jensen And Tango Makes Three , by Justin Richardson, Peter Parnell, and illustrator Henry Cole Jacob's Missing Book , by Sarah Hoffman, Ian Hoffman, and illustrator Chris Case

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And exclusive sneak peek of a brand new radio play starring Edie Falco, John Turturro and Tony Shalhoub. Inspired by Sinclair Lewis’ dystopian novel, It Can’t Happen Here , Richard Dresser’s novel, and now 6-part radio play called It Happened Here 2024, offers a glimpse of what could happen after the 2024 election if fascism creeps into the USA.

The story centers around the Weeks family as they brace for the election. Paul and Ruth’s family work to defeat the so-called Great Leader . Paul’s brother Garret and his family are on the other side. Family get-togethers are tense. When the Great Leader, with a giant boost from the Supreme Court, shockingly wins the quote, “most important election ever,” the family is thrown into chaos.

It Happened Here 2024 describes a country that still has Netflix and free two-day delivery, where the only thing lost is freedom....

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In Georgia, a controversial new rule to hand-count ballots is being challenged in court. On this week’s On the Media, how the big lie of 2020 is shaping elections in 2024. Plus, how newsrooms are preparing for a whirlwind of disinformation on election night — and beyond.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Sam Gringlas , politics reporter at WABE, about the controversy surrounding new election rules in Georgia and the officials backing them.

[14:37] Host Micah Loewinger interviews Ari Berman , voting rights correspondent at Mother Jones, about the wave of efforts by Republican lawmakers across the country to change voting and election laws, and what happens if we have a tie in the Electoral College.

[25:59] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Benjamin Mullin , media reporter for The New York Times, to hear how newsrooms are bracing for election night 2024.

[37:30] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Mark Clague , professor of musicology at the University of Michigan, about the role of music in this year's presidential campaigns, the history of political anthems, and the consequences of pop star celebrity culture seeping further into our political sphere.

Further reading:
“Georgia's Republican-led election board OKs controversial rule to hand-count ballots, ” by Sam Gringlas “Officials Voted Down a Controversial Georgia Election Rule, Saying It Violated the Law. Then a Similar Version Passed, ” by Doug Bock Clark “How Republicans Could Block a Democratic Victory in Georgia ,” by Ari Berman “Minority Rule: The Right-Wing Attack on the Will of the People―and the Fight to Resist It ,” by Ari Berman “News Outlets Brace for Chaos on Election Night (and Perhaps Beyond) ,” by Benjamin Mullin and Michael M. Grynbaum “Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris shows how big a role music is playing in the 2024 election ,” by Mark Clague

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When Fox News launched in 1996, critics called it “disorganized, incompetent, and laughably inept”. And during that election cycle it barely registered. But everything changed in 2000, when Fox News called Florida (and the presidency) for George W. Bush before any of the other networks. Potentially altering the outcome of the election in Bush’s favor.

Our midweek podcast this week is episode one of the new series of Slow Burn from Slate which takes that pivotal moment as its starting point to examine the place FOX News has carved out in our culture. The series traces the channel’s surging popularity in those early years, and profiles a bunch of people who rose up to try and stop it.

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Lies that immigrants are eating pets in Springfield, Ohio have inspired dozens of threats against the town, and toward Haitian-Americans across the nation. On this week’s On the Media, hear how public acceptance of political violence has grown. Plus, how January 6 became a recruiting tool for one of the country’s largest militias.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Macollvie Neel , special projects editor at The Haitian Times, to talk about the recent wave of rhetoric and threats aimed at the Haitian community in Springfield, Ohio, and why Neel and other reporters saw it coming.

[13:29] Host Brooke Gladstone interviews Lilliana Mason , Professor of Political Science at Johns Hopkins University, about the growing acceptance of political violence in America, and the reasons behind it.

[27:14] Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Matthew Dallek , a historian and professor of political management at George Washington University, to look at the history of political violence and presidential assassinations.

[37:32] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Joshua Kaplan , reporter at ProPublica, about how one powerful, but largely unseen militia avoided scrutiny after January 6th. And why a day that led many members to quit, turned into a call to arms.

Further reading:
“Haitians in Springfield: A tale of Black immigration in ‘Anytown USA,’ ” by Macollvie J. Neel “How to Prevent a Spiral of Political Violence in America ,” by Lilliana Mason “Radical American Partisanship ,” by Nathan Kalmoe and Lilliana Mason “The Fading Line Between Rhetorical Extremism and Political Violence ,” by Matthew Dallek “Political Violence May Be Un-American, but It Is Not Uncommon ,” by Matthew Dallek and Robert Dallek “Armed and Underground: Inside the Turbulent, Secret World of an American Militia ,” by Joshua Kaplan

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Last Tuesday, as audience members and press were still milling about the presidential debate stage in Philadelphia after the spotlights dimmed, the real bombshell of the night dropped — Taylor Swift's endorsement Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. And this week, pop star Billie Eilish and her brother Finneas took to Instagram, announcing that they were voting for Harris and Walz.

Swift and Eilish stand amid a sea of pop stars, including, among others, Beyonce, Charli xcx, and Cardi B, who have cheered on the Harris campaign — which has felt more like a weeks-long rave than the usual pre-election slog. The soundtrack for the Democratic National Convention was provided by a sunglass-clad DJ Cassidy, while the RNC featured performances by Kid Rock and bands like Sixwire. Politics and music, this year in particular, seem inextricable. For the midweek podcast, host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Mark Clague , a professor of musicology at the University of Michigan, about the role of music in this year's presidential campaigns, the history of political anthems, and the consequences of pop star celebrity culture seeping further into our political sphere.

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Kamala Harris has come under fire for ignoring interview requests from the press. On this week’s On the Media, the debate over whether giving media access actually helps inform voters. Plus, a guide to understanding election polls, and how they’ve evolved since the failures of 2016 and 2020.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone explores a rising complaint from some in the political press that Vice President Kamala Harris isn’t engaging enough with reporters, featuring: Perry Bacon Jr. , Washington Post columnist, Matt Bai , a journalist at the Washington Post who has interviewed many presidential candidates, and David Lurie , a contributing writer for Public Notice .

[19:57] Host Micah Loewinger speaks to Courtney Kennedy, Vice President of Methods and Innovation at Pew Research Center, to reassess our Breaking News Consumer’s Handbook on polls and answer the age-old question: should we care about them at all?

[34:26] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Gordon Hanson , an economist and a co-director of the Reimagining the Economy Project at Harvard University’s Kennedy School, about why tariffs have rebounded in political popularity amongst Democrats and Republicans.

Further reading:
“Harris should talk to journalists more. Particularly the wonky ones,” by Perry Bacon Jr. “The media gets nothing from Kamala Harris. That’s mostly on us,” by Matt Bai “Kamala Harris is cutting off Trump’s political oxygen,” by David Lurie “Key things to know about U.S. election polling in 2024,” by Scott Keeter and Courtney Kennedy “Washington’s New Trade Consensus: And What It Gets Wrong,” by Gordon Hanson

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Last summer, OTM host Micah Loewenger reported a piece about the rise of worker-owned newsrooms: Hell Gate, a local New York publication, and Defector, a national outlet focused on sports and culture.

Inspired by Defector and Hell Gate, more worked-owned outlets have come on the scene — including 404 Media , known for its mix of fun internet coverage and hard-nosed investigations. In this week’s midweek podcast, Micah speaks to 404 co-founder Samantha Cole about the challenges they have faced since they started their own outlet. Plus, what their success can teach us about the future of news.

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At a town hall event hosted by Fox, Donald Trump shared a number of falsehoods, and appeared to confuse who he was running against. On this week’s On the Media, how mainstream outlets fail to hold the Republican candidate accountable. Plus, meet the right-wing American pundits who’ve received payouts from the Kremlin.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Daniel Drezner , professor of International Politics at Tufts University. Drezner discusses how the political press continues to struggle to cover Trump, and his campaign against Vice President Kamala Harris.

[12:34] Host Brooke Gladstone interviews Dan Froomkin , editor of presswatchers.org . Froomkin explains why fact checkers at legacy outlets are too often adding to political confusion.

[20:49] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Will Sommer , reporter for the Washington Post who writes about conservative media. They discuss a federal investigation into how the Russian-funded media network RT funded and influenced content of a conservative media company in the U.S., which appears to be the Tennessee-based Tenet Media.

[35:01 ] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Dan Taberski , the host and creator of the podcast series “Hysterical,” about the ties between a medical mystery in Le Roy, New York in 2011, and the unending Havana Syndrome saga.

Further reading:
“The Very Weird Media Coverage of the 2024 Presidential Race,” by Daniel Drezner “'Fact-checking' does a (hopefully fatal) face plant,” by Dan Froomkin “Inside Tenet Media, the pro-Trump ‘supergroup’ allegedly funded by Russia ” by Will Sommer

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During election season, voters hope to glimpse the true selves of presidential candidates. And sometimes, revealing details hide in plain sight. On this week’s On the Media, one reporter sifts through political memoirs for truths about politicians and the people they lead. Plus, in vivid detail, a novelist imagines the private lives of former presidents.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Carlos Lozada , New York Times Opinion columnist and a co-host of the weekly “Matter of Opinion” podcast. Lozada explains how he mines political memoirs for deeper understanding of our political figures by examining what they include and what they omit.

[16:43] Brooke speaks with Vinson Cunningham , author of the novel Great Expectations . Cunningham, who is now a theater critic at The New Yorker, worked on the 2008 Obama campaign and later in the White House. Great Expectations is inspired by that time in his life and the difficult-to-read candidate for the presidency.

[35:05] Brooke interviews novelist Curtis Sittenfeld about her exploration of the minds of political figures through fiction, first in American Wife (inspired by Laura Bush) and next in Rodham , which considers what Hilary Clinton’s life would have looked like if she had never married Bill. They discuss the questions that led Sittenfeld to write those novels and why fiction based on real people makes readers so uncomfortable — especially the sex scenes.

This show originally aired on our May 3, 2024 program, How to Read a President, with Carlos Lozada, Vinson Cunningham, and Curtis Sittenfeld.

Further reading:
The Washington Book by Carlos Lozada Great Expectations by Vinson Cunningham American Wife and Rodham by Curtis Sittenfeld Curtis Sittenfeld: ‘People misunderstood the sex scenes in Rodham’

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A recent update to the Apple podcast app also included a tweak to how podcast downloads work. As a podcast user you’re free to shrug and move on. But for podcast creators this could be a big deal. According to data from Podtrac, overall downloads across the industry were down 15 percent as of February. This American Life lost 20 percent of their downloads. Some shows at NPR saw a 30 percent dip. In this week's midweek podcast, OTM producer Molly Rosen looks at how Apple has shaped the podcast industry.

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When President Biden campaigned for re-election, he highlighted threats to democracy and his long track record. But since Kamala Harris took over the ticket, the party has landed on new messaging. On this week’s On the Media, a democratic strategist explains why we heard words like joy and freedom over and over at the Democratic National Convention. Plus, hear how Christian nationalism is shaping American politics.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone interviews Anat Shenker-Osorio , a democratic messaging strategist who has advised PACs and committees in battleground states, about the party’s new messaging strategy. They discuss how mockery shrinks strongmen to size; why voters seem to like the word “freedom” more than “democracy”; and more.

[16:39] Brooke speaks with Matthew D. Taylor, scholar at the Institute for Islamic, Christian, & Jewish Studies in Baltimore and author of the forthcoming book, The Violent Take It by Force: The Christian Movement That Is Threatening Our Democracy . They discuss different strains of Christian nationalism — from the sentimental view of America as a Christian nation, to the desire to uphold Christian supremacy. Plus, how the phenomenon has shaped American politics for centuries.

[32:23] Brooke continues her conversation with Matthew D. Taylor. Taylor introduces Brooke to the world of independent charismatic Christianity and its media, where an extreme form of Christian nationalism has taken root. Plus, the Christian leaders who stoked violence on January 6th.

A portion of this episode originally aired on our April 19, 2024 program, Meet the Media Prophets Who Preach Christian Supremacy. Plus, Journalism in ‘Civil War’

Further reading / listening:
The rise of the "Brat Pack" — and a new Democratic political style by Anand Giridharadas Why Kamala Harris’ New Politics of Joy Is the Best Way to Fight Fascism, by Anat Shenker-Osorio How the Alabama IVF Ruling Was Influenced by Christian Nationalism by Matthew D. Taylor Christian Nationalism (Un)Defined by Matthew D. Taylor

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This is an episode from the Vox daily news podcast, Today, Explained . Host Noel King spoke with OTM regular, Rick Perlstein. As a historian of US politics he is often called upon to draw comparisons between today’s events and those of the past. This year in particular, the echoes with 1968 are unavoidable: the DNC is again in Chicago, there are protests outside (this time its about Gaza, then it was the Vietnam War).

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New York City’s alternative weekly newspaper, The Village Voice, birthed a generation of legendary writers. On this week’s On the Media, how the Voice transformed journalism and what’s being lost as alt-weeklies across the country die off. Plus, a look at how AI sludge is flooding old news websites.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Tricia Romano , author of The Freaks Came Out to Write, about the early days of The Village Voice, including one reporter’s mission to stop Robert Moses and its revolutionary music section.

[16:02] Micah continues his conversation with Tricia Romano , getting into the Voice’s sale to Rupert Murdoch, the tensions within the paper, and how Craigslist led to its ultimate demise.

[34:41] Micah speaks with Wired tech reporter Kate Knibbs about how the site of publication The Hairpin mysteriously relaunched with a slate of bizarre, AI-generated articles. Knibbs managed to track down the new owner of the site, a Serbian entrepreneur known as DJ Vujo.

Portions of this episode originally aired on our April 12, 2024 program, The Rise and Fall of Alt-Weeklies, and Backpage.com vs The Feds , and our February 9, 2024 program, If You Can’t Beat ’Em… Join ’Em? Journalism in an AI World.

Further reading:
The Freaks Came Out to Write: The Definitive History of the Village Voice, the Radical Paper That Changed American Culture “Zombie Alt-Weeklies Are Stuffed With AI Slop About OnlyFans,” by Kate Knibbs
“Confessions of an AI Clickbait Kingpin,”

by Kate Knibbs

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In 2011, a group of high school girls in the small town of Le Roy, New York started coming down with mysterious medical symptoms. When their parents took to the story to the press, it became a national news sensation, attracting the attention of everyone from the environmental activist Erin Brokovich to a former Bachelor contestant with a medical diagnosis tv show. Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Dan Taberski , the host and creator of a new podcast series called Hysterical , about what happened in Le Roy, New York and what this and other similar events can tell us about the relationship between the media and hysteria.

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This week, Kamala Harris’ VP pick Tim Walz went viral for being a typical Midwestern dad. On this week’s On the Media, the narratives surrounding Walz, and the political appeal of the car-tinkering, grill-manning father figure. Plus, the news influencers covering the election, and what their work reveals about the future of legacy journalism.

[02:22] Host Brooke Gladstone examines the narratives swirling around Gov. Tim Walz, and chats with Charlie Warzel , staff writer at The Atlantic, about the many memes, videos, and tweets claiming the VP nominee is “dad-coded.”

[14:50] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Nathan Grayson , reporter and co-founder of the gaming publication Aftermath. They discuss Donald Trump’s recent interview with live streamer Adin Ross and Trump’s courtship of edgelord influencers like Logan Paul. Plus, is there a place for politicians on platforms like Twitch and Kick?

[33:18] Host Micah Loewinger talks with Makena Kelly , who writes about politics and the internet for Wired, about how the Republican and Democratic national conventions are inviting influencers to watch. Then, Micah checks in with Taylor Lorenz , columnist at the Washington Post and host of the podcast Power User, about how the rise of short-form video is impacting the news industry.

Further reading / listening:
“Dad Is on the Ballot ” by Charlie Warzel Stream Big: The Triumphs and Turmoils of Twitch and the Stars Behind the Screen (forthcoming in 2025) by Nathan Grayson The Influencers with as Much Presidential Access as the Press , by Makena Kelly Democratic convention will host hundreds of online influencers , by Taylor Lorenz

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Brooke Gladstone interviews Kathryn Hughes, author of Catland , about the storied history of the cat lady trope, how cats became beloved by so many in our culture, and the many meanings ascribed to the animals.

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Vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance’s remarks on childless cat ladies have ties to a movement urging people to have more children. On this week’s On the Media, find out why declining birth rates are regarded by some as a harbinger of doom. Plus, the storied history of so-called cat ladies, and why they often face contempt.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger on our “weird” politics, why every day in our news cycle feels like an eternity, and the debate over Donald Trump’s interview at the National Association of Black Journalists conference.

[06:38] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Rachel Cohen, policy correspondent at Vox, about J.D. Vance and the belief that falling birth rates foretell social and economic catastrophe.

[23:49] OTM producer Candice Wang reports the story of an older, more established population anxiety: the fear that there are simply too many people for our planet to sustain.

[32:55] Host Brooke Gladstone interviews Kathryn Hughes, author of Catland , about the storied history of the cat lady trope, how cats became beloved by so many in our culture, and the many meanings ascribed to the animals.

Further reading / listening:
“The movement desperately trying to get people to have more babies” by Rachel Cohen Building the Population Bomb by Emily Klancher Merchant The Book That Incited a Worldwide Fear of Overpopulation by Charles C. Mann Reproductive Rights and Wrongs: The Global Politics of Population Control by Betsy Hartmann Catland: Louis Wain and the Great Cat Mania by Kathryn Hughes

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“The Sound of Sport ” was produced by Peregrine Andrews for Falling Tree Productions and originally broadcast on BBC Radio 4 in 2011. Dennis Baxter is the host of the documentary which was made right around the time of the London Olympics in 2012. Some things have changed in the intervening years, but if you're watching the Paris Olympics, this documentary is a perfect companion.

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Conservative media outlets are testing a series of talking points to discredit the leading Democratic candidate for president. On this week’s On the Media, hear how right-wing coverage of Kamala Harris compares to what Hilary Clinton received. Plus, podcast host Ezra Klein reflects on how his early call for President Biden to step aside came true.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Kat Abughazaleh , a video creator also known as Kat Abu , about how right-wing attacks on the presumptive Democratic nominee Kamala Harris compare to those on Hillary Clinton in 2016, and how conservative media outlets were unprepared to coordinate a campaign against Harris.

[14:02] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Jamilah King , editorial director at Mother Jones, about Kamala Harris’ rise from district attorney in Oakland, California to the second highest office in the United States, and the narratives that have followed her and her political career through the years.

[30:34] Micah speaks with Ezra Klein , New York Times columnist and host of ‘The Ezra Klein Show,’ to reflect on Joe Biden’s withdrawal from the presidential race, and Klein’s role as one of the earliest voices calling for Biden to step aside.

Further reading / listening:
Fox’s Racist, Sexist Attacks on Kamala Aren’t Landing. Yet. by Kat Abughazaleh It’s Kamala’s Campaign Now by Jamilah King Democrats Have a Better Option Than Joe Biden by Ezra Klein

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Moments after President Biden withdrew from the presidential race on Sunday, GOP leaders rushed to tug at any loose threads in his withdrawal. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson threatened legal challenges to his withdrawal, calling it “unlawful,” and other GOP leaders like J.D. Vance referred to the move as a “coup” and “a threat to democracy.” For the midweek podcast, host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Rick Hasen , a legal scholar and law professor at UCLA, to break down how the arguments against the president’s withdrawal hold no legal legitimacy, why Kamala Harris’ ascension as likely nominee is an example of the democratic process working, not failing, and other narratives emerging from the GOP in response to Biden’s exit from the race.

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At the Republican National Convention, Donald J. Trump named J.D. Vance as his pick for Vice President. On this week’s On the Media, hear how Vance went from liberal darling to MAGA leader, with a little help from a billionaire. Plus, meet the right-wing Christians who see the failed attempt on Trump’s life as evidence of his divine anointing by God.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone charts the media’s role in shaping J.D. Vance's rise. Vance rose to fame as a liberal media darling who frequently lambasted Donald Trump after the publication of his blockbuster memoir “Hillbilly Elegy,” to Trump’s VP pick and a new leader of the MAGA movement. Ian Ward , a reporter at Politico, and Simon van Zuylen-Wood , a staff writer at New York Magazine, speak to how Vance’s vision of America extends far beyond Trumpism.

[15:03] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Andrew Prokop , senior politics correspondent at Vox, about Vance’s roots in the so-called New Right, a scrappy but growing offshoot of conservatism that aims to seize and destroy societal institutions they believe are controlled by the left. Plus, John Herrman , tech columnist at New York Magazine, explains what Big Tech sees in MAGA.

[36:35] Brooke speaks with Matthew D. Taylor , author of the forthcoming book The Violent Take it by Force , about how the attempted assassination of Trump has amplified a subset of evangelicals who believe that prophecy foresaw the event. These right-wing Christians see Trump as an anointed candidate, saved by God.

Further reading / listening:
The Radicalization of J.D. Vance by Simon van Zuylen-Wood 55 Things to Know About JD Vance, Trump’s VP Pick by Ian Ward J.D. Vance’s radical plan to build a government of Trump loyalists by Andrew Prokop Why Silicon Valley Elites Are Turning MAGA by John Herrman How the Assassination Attempt Has Ignited the Prophecy World by Matthew D. Taylor The Violent Take It by Force: The Christian Movement That Is Threatening Our Democracy by Matthew D. Taylor

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Across the globe, summers are getting unseasonably, and scarily hot, and last year the United Nations announcing that we've entered the era of "global boiling." And yet it's hard to grapple with the damage caused by extreme heat. It's the deadliest kind of climate disaster, but victims of heat often die out of sight of the public eye. FEMA doesn't even respond to extreme heat waves in the way it does to other "major disasters ." Jake Bittle is a staff writer at Grist covering climate impact. Brooke spoke to Bittle last year about the invisibility of extreme heat, the challenge it presents to news outlets, and the potential value of naming heat waves.

This is a segment from our August 18, 2023 show, Read All About It.

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Immigration is one of the most important issues in this year’s presidential election. This week, On the Media traces how root causes of mass migration from Central America to the United States over the past decade stem back to the Cold War. Plus, a deep dive on terms like “colonialism” and “decolonization,” and what they mean in the context of Israel-Palestine.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Jonathan Blitzer , who covers immigration for The New Yorker and is author of the book, Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here , about how the root causes of mass migration from Central America to the United States over the past decade stem back to the Cold War. This interview originally aired on our February 2, 2024 show.

[15:30] Brooke continues her conversation with Jonathan Blitzer about how the past and future of Central America and the United States are inextricable, and the far-reaching consequences of Congress’ refusal to reform the immigration system since 1990. This interview originally aired on our February 2, 2024 show.

[30:58] Brooke Gladstone speaks with Iyad el-Baghdadi , a Palestinian human rights activist, writer, and co-author of The Middle East Crisis Factory , about the value of historical parallels to describe the conflict in Palestine, and why the precise meanings behind words like “decolonization” and “colonialism” are crucial. This interview originally aired on our March 8, 2024 show.

Further reading / listening:
Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here The Middle East Crisis Factory

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In January 2023, a TV show called In the Know debuted on Peacock. The comedy is a parody of a daily NPR show produced in New York City, with rather cringey characters portrayed by stop-motion puppets. Each episode also features an interview with a real person who appears on Zoom. The show is written by Zach Woods, Brandon Gardner, and Mike Judge, creator of Beavis and Butthead (who also voices the character of Sandy the movie critic). Woods, known for playing Gabe on The Office and Jared from Silicon Valley , plays the central role of Lauren Caspian, billed as the third most famous NPR host. Brooke speaks with Zach Woods and Brandon Gardner about why public radio provides such rich ground for satire, and how comedy can restore complexity to the world.

This interview originally aired on our January 26, 2024 show.

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Every year on the Fourth of July, households across America embrace the aesthetics of patriotism. On this week’s On the Media, find out how the early country music industry got a major boost from the US military and became associated with the “sound of patriotism.” Plus, how a song written by a Canadian became an anthem for the Confederate “lost cause.”

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Joseph Thompson , a professor of history and author of the new book Cold War Country , about how hillbilly music transformed into the powerful country music industry, starting with a little assistance from the US military in the 1940s and 50s.

[18:40] Micah continues his conversation with Joseph Thompson about how country music came to be linked to a certain type of American patriotism, and why some of country music’s most famous jingoistic songs are more complex than many listeners think.

[32:15] Brooke Gladstone speaks with Jack Hamilton , pop critic for Slate and author of the book Just Around Midnight: Rock and Roll and the Racial Imagination , about how “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” became an anthem for the Confederate ‘Lost Cause.’ This interview originally aired on our January 8th, 2021 show .

Further reading / listening:
Cold War Country: How Nashville's Music Row and the Pentagon Created the Sound of American Patriotism Just Around Midnight: Rock and Roll and the Racial Imagination

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Last month, Clarence Thomas acknowledged several luxury trips that were gifted to him by billionaire Harlan Crow. But the pair’s financial ties had long been public knowledge, thanks to a bombshell report by ProPublica in 2023. The gifts included lavish vacations, trips on private yachts and jets — and even a trip to Indonesia valued at as much as half a million dollars. Most of these gifts went undisclosed, despite that being required by law. But this isn’t Thomas’ first rodeo. He has reportedly accepted a slew of gifts in the past, including $1200 worth of tires from an Omaha businessman, and a bust of President Lincoln valued at $15,000.

Brooke speaks to Corey Robin, a journalist and political science professor at Brooklyn College and the City University of New York Graduate Center, about Clarence Thomas relationship with money and power, and Robin’s article in Politico, "The Clarence Thomas Scandal Is About More Than Corruption. It’s about his jurisprudence."

This interview originally aired on April 21, 2023.

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Some of the most outrageous stories about President Biden are originating from a single, unverified source. On this week’s On the Media, hear about the shadowy organization that’s influencing election narratives. Plus, factual errors are at the heart of a recent Supreme Court decision. Learn how we can reform the system.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone interviews Judd Legum , author of Popular Information, about how a rightwing outlet is presenting itself as a neutral news source, all the while pushing coordinated messaging about President Biden.

[18:04] Host Micah Loewinger speaks to Mark Joseph Stern , senior writer at Slate, about the factual errors in a recent Supreme Court ruling concerning guns.

[35:48] Micah interviews Allison Orr Larsen , professor of law at William and Mary, about how so many contested facts reach the highest court via amicus briefs. Plus, how to reform the so-called “amicus machine.”

Further reading:
“Sinclair floods local news websites with hundreds of deceptive articles about Biden's mental fitness,” by Judd Legum “Clarence Thomas’ Opinion Legalizing Bump Stocks Is Indefensible,” by Mark Joseph Stern “The Supreme Court Decisions on Guns and Abortion Relied Heavily on History. But Whose History?” by Allison Orr Larsen “It’s a Fact: Supreme Court Errors Aren’t Hard to Find,” by Ryan Gabrielson (2017)

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This week, we turn away from the media for a moment, to a realm thousands of feet beneath the ocean’s surface – where sperm whales swim. These behemoths spend most of their lives in complete darkness, surfacing only for a few minutes at a time. They have the largest brains of virtually any other creature on earth, and they grow to be the size of one school bus, even two – and weigh as much as ten of them. But despite leading wildly different lives, scientists say they may communicate with each other – much like we do.

In May, scientists at CETI , or Cetacean Translation Initiative, published a study claiming that they use a complex phonetic alphabet that echoes the structures of human languages. This week, host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Shane Gero , a biologist focusing on the acoustic complexity and social behavior of whales and Biology Lead at CETI, about this phonetic alphabet, and how it might be the first of many steps that could lead to translating what these sea giants are saying – and saving their lives.

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Why does every social media platform seem to get worse over time? This week’s On the Media explores an expansive theory on how we lost a better version of the internet, and the systems that insulate Big Digital from competition. Plus, some solutions for fixing the world wide web.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone interviews Cory Doctorow, journalist, activist, and the author of Red Team Blues , on his theory surrounding the slow, steady descent of the internet.

[15:59] Brooke asks Cory if the troubles that plague some corners of the internet are specific to Big Digital, rather than the economy at large—and how our legal systems enabled it all. Doctorow explains how the antitrust practices of the early 1900s went awry, and what exactly he means by “twiddling.”

[31:29] Cory and Brooke discuss possible solutions to save the world wide web. Among them: better enforcement of privacy laws, interoperability, and the ever elusive "right-to-exit." Plus, hear about the one industry that so far has been mostly immune to the forces of "enshittification."

This episode originally aired on our September 1, 2023 program, How Big Tech Went to Sh*t .

Further reading:
“The ‘Enshittification’ of TikTok ” by Cory Doctorow
“Too big to care,” by Cory Doctorow

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Over the past few months, The Washington Post has weathered a slate of unfavorable news. In May, publisher and CEO Will Lewis revealed the Post lost 77 million dollars last year. Lewis also announced a big restructuring and, as reported by Semafor’s Max Tani, the paper’s chief technology officer should have "AI everywhere in our newsroom."

But then things started changing at the top of the news organization. Sally Buzbee, who had served as the executive editor for the Post over the last three years, resigned. And in the wake of her departure CEO Will Lewis, and his chosen replacement for Buzbee, Robert Winnett, became the center of multiple investigations. Allegations of paying sources, using informants who secured scoops via deception, and even approving destruction of evidence have now made headlines. This week, Micah sits down with NPR media correspondent, David Folkenflik to make sense of the news, and what it all might mean for one of America’s most storied papers.

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Over the past two decades, 900 British postal workers were wrongfully prosecuted for fraud. On this week’s On the Media, hear how a TV show about the Post Office Scandal sparked a political reckoning in the U.K. Plus, meet the Redstones – the complicated family behind Paramount Global.

[00:00] Host Brooke Gladstone interviews Jonathan Freedland , columnist at the Guardian and host of the Politics Weekly America podcast, about how coinciding election campaigns in the US and the UK this year are influencing each other from across the pond.

[00:00] Brooke explores how a recent British TV drama about the "Post Office Scandal" sparked a long overdue political reckoning in the U.K., and shone a light on the stories of British postal workers wrongfully prosecuted for fraud. Brooke interviews reporter Rebecca Thomson , who first broke the story in 2009; reporter Nick Wallis , author of The Great Post Office Scandal and consultant for the television drama; and Lee Castleton, a former subpostmaster in East Yorkshire.

[00:00] Lastly, Brooke interviews Rachel Abrams , senior producer and reporter for The New York Times Presents and co-author of Unscripted:​​ The Epic Battle for a Media Empire and the Redstone Family Legacy . They discuss the Redstones, the family behind the media empire Paramount Global.

Further reading:
The Great Post Office Scandal by Nick Wallis Mr. Bates vs The Post Office , PBS Unscripted:​​ The Epic Battle for a Media Empire and the Redstone Family Legacy by Rachel Abrams and James B. Stewart

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This week's midweek podcast comes from our colleagues at the New Yorker Radio Hour:

On the Netflix reality-TV dating show “Love Is Blind,” contestants are alone in windowless, octagonal pods with no access to their phones or the Internet. They talk to each other through the walls. There’s intrigue, romance, heartbreak, and, in some cases, sight-unseen engagements. According to several lawsuits, there’s also lack of sleep, lack of food and water, twenty-hour work days, and alleged physical and emotional abuse. New Yorker staff writer Emily Nussbaum has been reporting on what these lawsuits reveal about the culture on the set of “Love Is Blind,” and a push for a new union to give reality-TV stars employee protections and rights. “The people who are on reality shows are a vulnerable class of people who are mistreated by the industry in ways that are made invisible to people, including to fans who love the shows,” Nussbaum tells NYRH host, David Remnick. Nussbaum’s forthcoming book is “Cue the Sun! The Invention of Reality TV. ”

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This week, the Department of Justice accused one of the most influential right wing outlets of laundering tens of millions of dollars. On this week’s On the Media, a former reporter on his progression from defining the disinformation beat to running one of the most famous fake news outlets, The Onion. Plus, a satirical movement about birds illuminates the inner workings of conspiracies.

[01:09] Host Micah Loewinger interviews Ben Collins , newly minted shareholder and CEO of the satirical site The Onion , about how his background in disinformation reporting led him to his latest gig.

[18:03] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Ian Beacock about Birds Aren’t Real , a prank conspiracy theory that is itself a case study in how misinformation spreads.

[34:41] Lastly, Brooke interviews Annalee Newitz about their latest book, Stories Are Weapons: Psychological Warfare and the American Mind . They discuss how stories have long been spun as a means of controlling people — from the 18th century to today’s culture wars.

Further reading:
“Trump, QAnon and an impending judgment day: Behind the Facebook-fueled rise of The Epoch Times,” by Brandy Zadrozny and Ben Collins “Birds Aren’t Real: The Prank That Turned Misinformation on Its Head,” by Ian Beacock Stories Are Weapons: Psychological Warfare and the American Mind by Annalee Newitz

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Something happened on the internet this week that was at once HUGE and also kind of a foregone conclusion. Jimmy Donaldson better known as Mr. Beast has been for many years basically the king of YouTube. But, as of this week, Mr Beast is now officially the most subscribed YouTuber in the world with 271 million followers at time of recording. His clickbaity game-show style videos, with their extravagant sets and giant payouts, have come to define this era of the site.

Remember Squid Game, the Korean Netflix sensation? That show got around 265 million views. Mr Beast’s “real life” Squid Game video got 616 million views.

That’s why he’s number 1. And there’s actually a very interesting history of jockeying for YouTube’s top spot. Mr. Beast has overtaken a giant Indian entertainment company, T-series (266 million subscribers) which had reigned unchallenged for years.

In 2019, Micah worked with Brooke on a piece about the last time a big Western YouTuber went head to head with T-series. Back then it was a guy who was sort of the Mr Beast of that time, a youtuber known as PewDiepie.

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When Donald J. Trump was found guilty on all counts in the hush money trial, some in the press were caught off guard. But the former president and conservative pundits primed for this result with a strategic messaging campaign. On this week’s On the Media, hear how Trump uses Truth Social to disseminate talking points to a web of right-wing influencers.

[01:10] Host Micah Loewinger analyzes the media coverage following the announcement of the verdict in Trump’s hush money trial and the ways that rightwing media had been primed to respond. He also interviews Sarah Ellison of the Washington Post about how a network of right-wing influencers amplify Donald Trump’s Truth Social posts, carrying their reach far beyond the platform.

[22:58] Micah speaks with Matthew Goldstein , business reporter at the New York Times, about the short, rocky history of Trump Media and how the company became the latest memestock.

[35:58] Lastly, host Brooke Gladstone interviews Lynsey Addario , an award-winning photojournalist who has covered humanitarian crises abroad for over two decades, about how accurately Alex Garland’s film “Civil War” depicts what it's like to report on violent conflict and her real-life experiences covering wars abroad.

Further reading:
“How Trump’s allies amplify his Truth Social messages to the wider world ,” by Sarah Ellison “How Donald Trump’s Financial Future Became Tied to Trump Media ,” by Matthew Goldstein

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Micah breaks down media hype about AI. According to Sam Harnett , a former tech reporter, journalists are repeating lazy tropes about the future of work that once boosted companies like Uber, Airbnb, and Fiverr. Plus, Julia Angwin, founder of Proof News , debunks fantastical claims by AI companies about their software. And Paris Marx, host of Tech Won’t Save Us , explains how AI leaders like Sam Altman use the press to lobby regulators and investors.

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A majority of Americans believe that the economy is in a recession even though it’s not. On this week’s On the Media, hear why there’s a mismatch between facts and feelings about the economy. Plus, how the outlandish claims of AI companies often go unchecked by the press.

[01:09] Host Micah Loewinger interviews Jeanna Smialek of The New York Times about whether the ‘vibecession’ is back and the factors that are shaping negative perceptions of the economy.

[14:41] Micah speaks with Gordon Hanson , economist at Harvard University’s Kennedy School, about how President Biden has adopted, and even escalated, former President Trump’s tariffs on China, and why the political narratives around tariffs don’t always match up with the economic realities.

[29:29] Lastly, Micah breaks down media hype about AI. According to Sam Harnett , a former tech reporter, journalists are repeating lazy tropes about the future of work that once boosted companies like Uber, Airbnb, and Fiverr. Plus, Julia Angwin, founder of Proof News , debunks fantastical claims by AI companies about their software. And Paris Marx, host of Tech Won’t Save Us , explains how AI leaders like Sam Altman use the press to lobby regulators and investors.

Further reading:
“High Interest Rates Are Hitting Poorer Americans the Hardest ,” by Ben Casselman and Jeanna Smialek “Washington’s New Trade Consensus ,” by Gordon Hanson “How Tech Media Helped Write Gig Companies into Existence ,” by Sam Harnett “Press Pause on the Silicon Valley Hype Machine ,” by Julia Angwin “AI is Fueling a Data Center Boom. It Must Be Stopped ," by Paris Marx

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Immigration consistently polls as one of the most important topics for voters. According to a recent Gallup poll immigration is the most polarizing issue of the last 25 years, with 48 percent of Republicans saying it’s the most important issue compared to just 8 percent of Democrats. This probably has something to do with the coverage of immigration in conservative media. And recently, right pundits have begun to focus on one of the most dangerous parts of a migrants’ journey north from South America.

In March, New York Times reporter Ken Bensinger reported a story from the Darien Gap in Panama, which was once thought to be too perilous to cross but which now sees thousands of migrants make their way through every month. For this week's podcast extra, we bring you a recent episode of the podcast What Next, hosted by our former WNYC colleague Mary Harris. Mary spoke to Ken Bensinger about the right wing media obsession with the Darien Gap.

Further reading / listening:
Right-Wing Influencers Descend on the Darien Gap

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